KVR Audio

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:12 pm

aldi wrote:that's what i meant
....you can't move it anymore because it will snap to the beat.

At any time, holding down the Shift key and left mouse clicking, whether moving, triming, editing, audio/MIDI notes/clips/loops, in any Arrange or Edit pane, will over ride any Snap To settings.

aldi · Post by **aldi** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:41 pm

yes sure, but the relative position of the clip to the next beat (and maby other clips that have to stay in phase (multimiced drums?!)) is gone.

GlitchB0t · Post by **GlitchB0t** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:11 pm

sluggo, yeah I agree.

I was actually hoping P5 would be as-good-as-live at the live stuff, and still having the extra goodies that p5 provides.

Resale value of Live means I could have bought P5 and saved some $$$ in the process

But having seen P5, I really hope Live goes away from the DAW stuff, and turns even more 'live' if you will.

I see it as being the next rage in DJaying.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:51 pm

aldi wrote:yes sure, but the relative position of the clip to the next beat (and maby other clips that have to stay in phase (multimiced drums?!)) is gone.

can't you just select all of the clips you want and then use billybk1's tip?

h2ogun99 · Post by **h2ogun99** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:59 pm

Try this, in Live4 quickly adjust the tempo while playing a tune....then do it in P5v2....big difference.

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ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:18 pm

what is the difference then ?

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:34 pm

can you purchase p5 straight off of cakewalks site you know as a download??

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:41 pm

HI

Unlikely - its 3 or so gigabytes - with the sample library!

Flipper.

pseudonoise · Post by **pseudonoise** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:08 pm

I honestly can't believe some of the responses in this thread. It's like some of you actually expected:

> P5 to be as good as Live in all the things Live is better than any other program at (loop control).
> P5 to be way better than Live in all the areas P5 is strong in - Midi Editing, Arp, Content and Instruments (i.e. Dimension).
> P5 to be about 30% - 40% less expensive than Live.

Considering that you got two out three, I would say that it certainly is impossible to satisfy some people. I don't remember anything on the Cakewalk website that said it would kill Live in every way. Furthermore, considering the V1-V2 upgrade price on this was only $80, you're probably going to get the features you want in 2.5 or 3.0 and still have a total cost of ownership about $100 below AL4 and $240 below AL5.

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:08 pm

stale bread wrote:can you purchase p5 straight off of cakewalks site you know as a download??

That would be quite a download

Rene's (of rgc:audio fame) new Dimension sampling synthesizer has over 3GB's of content, for it alone. P5 2.0 comes on a DVD. So make sure you have a DVD drive available for install. Cakewalk will provide the 2.0 update on CDROM's (probably 7-10), but for an extra fee.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:14 pm

shit, 3gigs means nothin i'm ready

, been checkin out the p5.com and every piece of info i can find ...seems like p5/L4 is gonna be the best combo seen in these here
parts. and for the first time I actualy think the overlap of the 2 apps is going to be it's own great feature once you work them in combination cause when you
lean just a lil'bit to one side or the other you'll still have enough of the side you're leaning away to not feel akward like you're missing something.

good stuff methinks

baggio · Post by **baggio** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:27 pm

I have messed around with the demo quite a bit and think it is definitly an improvement on version 1. Also, £50 for the dimension synth alone would make me buy it - Rene hasn't failed me yet.

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:37 pm

stale bread wrote:...seems like p5/L4 is gonna be the best combo seen in these here
parts. and for the first time I actualy think the overlap of the 2 apps is going to be it's own great feature once you work them in combination cause when you

I have been experimenting with Live 4 rewired to P5 2.0 (using the web demo) and the rewire implementation, between the two, is pretty tight. But, if you are going to be running both apps simultaneously (in rewire mode) you should have a rather robust DAW setup. I would not go by P2 2.0's bare minimum requirements, but at least the recommended specs. On my XP SP1, P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB RAM laptop DAW, I was able to have L4 rewired to P2 2.0 and use both without any gapping and performance was robust. Gapless audio indeed!

But, on my XP SP1, 1Ghz, 512MB desktop DAW, it would get a little fidgety and sluggish, once you started getting up over 80% CPU. Which was not very hard to do, once you started adding a few softsynths and FX, to the mix.

System Requirements:
Minimum-----------------------Recommended

Operating System:
Windows 2000--------------------Windows XP

Processor Speed:
1.2 Ghz Pentium Athlon/2.0 Ghz Pentium Athlon

RAM:
512 MB------------------------1024 MB

Hard Disk Space:
2.5 GB--------------------------5 GB

Video resolution:
1024 x 768, 16-bit--------1280 x 1024, 32-bit

Audio hardware:
Any Windows compatible using WDM, ASIO, or DirectSound Drivers

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:11 pm

pseudonoise wrote:
> P5 to be as good as Live in all the things Live is better than any other program at (loop control).

I was just hoping that, if they did decide to do a Groove Matrix they'd pay enough attention to what makes Live's session view brilliant to get the same basic flow. No such luck.

saulc12 · Post by **saulc12** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:15 pm

Shame the demo does not feature the dimesnions DXI, makes it a pretty pointless demo to me as this is the part that I was really intersted in...

Project 5 V2 Demo is up