Every time I export an audiomixdown in cubase it sounds crap

[Evan]

Where are you from Davor?

[davor]

so is the concensus that john vestman is a snake oil dealer ?

No, John Vestman is a golden-eared mastering engineer. Check out what some people say about him:


"We picked your services over two Grammy-filled L.A. studios - because what you did sounded better."
--Ryan Hafer - engineer - Coach House Records



You are just jealous wannabe/geek, and there isn't anybody who would ask for you services, because the stuff that you would engineer would sound actually worse

[davor]

Where are you from Davor?

I'm from the middle of nowhere/ The Never Neverland And you?

[nuffink]

No, John Vestman is a golden-eared mastering engineer. Check what some people say about him:


"He could suck a billiard ball through a garden hose."
--Ryan Hafer - tea boy- Coach House Records

[ericj23]

i personally have loads of cds that have never been mastered - and many of them sound bloody fabulous

im sorry but your buying into nothing - mastering is the icing on the cake - i am not even interested in the guy becuase i don't compose for anyone but myself - and yes my compositions are poor

but then so is john's understanding of the digital technology he works with - he hasnt realised the difference between a red book cd and a cd-rom for funks sake

and he helps make them -

and the digital transfer stuff - for gawds sake - invert the phase and see if its a null - he's not even tried

thats why i say he's a snake oil dealer - becuase he's selling ideas that just happen to encourage you to use his services - hmmmmmm

[davor]

i personally have loads of cds that have never been mastered - and many of them sound bloody fabulous

im sorry but your buying into nothing - mastering is the icing on the cake - i am not even interested in the guy becuase i don't compose for anyone but myself - and yes my compositions are poor

but then so is john's understanding of the digital technology he works with - he hasnt realised the difference between a red book cd and a cd-rom for funks sake

and he helps make them -

and the digital transfer stuff - for gawds sake - invert the phase and see if its a null - he's not even tried

thats why i say he's a snake oil dealer - becuase he's selling ideas that just happen to encourage you to use his services - hmmmmmm

You have loads of cds that havent been mastered? That's just about the stupidest thing you've written in this thread, if it can be comparet with the one that CD is an analogue medium. Every commercial cd has been mastered in one way or another. Even if you just line up the songs, that's called mastered cd, otherwise you wouldn't be able to play it on a cd player. An you can bet that every pop_rock_electronica cd has been mastered specifically to "improve" the original mix.

The fact that you have an iron pair of ears, is not Johns problem, but yours. You can clutch at technicalities, but by the end of the day, it still boils down to whether you have a good pair of ears or you don't, and you don't, and that's just about it. Dissmising John, cannot be the aliby for your lack of ability.

[ericj23]

the problem is that i never said cd was an anlogue medium - just that everything on it is analogue - remember i said that digital is a mathematical concept - and im fariad that is 100% correct - if you don't understand this that is your problem

and i disagree with you about what mastering means - you see i am talking baout non commercial cds by the likes of jimi hendrix, miles , coltrane etc - none of which have had the likes of mr eastman anywhere near them

and what do you know - some of them sound bloody fabulous

lining up the tracks on a cd so it meets red book standard is nothing to with mastering - after all I can do that easily on my home PC

but john still doesnt know the differnce between a red book cd and a cd-rom

hey wait - do you ?

[davor]

the problem is that i never said cd was an anlogue medium - just that everything on it is analogue - remember i said that digital is a mathematical concept - and im fariad that is 100% correct - if you don't understand this that is your problem

and i disagree with you about what mastering means - you see i am talking baout non commercial cds by the likes of jimi hendrix, miles , coltrane etc - none of which have had the likes of mr eastman anywhere near them

and what do you know - some of them sound bloody fabulous

lining up the tracks on a cd so it meets red book standard is nothing to with mastering - after all I can do that easily on my home PC

but john still doesnt know the differnce between a red book cd and a cd-rom

hey wait - do you ?

Non commercial cd-s by hendrix, Miles or Coltrane? You mean bootleged? And even if they were bootlegged, how would you know if somebody mastered them or not. Or perhaps you recorded them? You haven't got a clue about music production in general, do you?

Yes it does, lining up of the tracks is one of the things that a mastering engineer does.

John bloody well knows the difference, and so do I. The only problem here are you iron pair of ears, and as I sad technicalities cannot be the aliby for you lack of ability.

[IIRs]

as I sad technicalities cannot be the aliby for you lack of ability.

You can repeat it as many times as you like, but it still won't make any sense.

[ericj23]

ok prove it - what is the differnce between a red book cd and a cd-rom - dead easy question shouldn't require more than a one sentence answer

but john's comments on data preservation on his web-site make it very clear he doesnt know either

and finally - no i didn't record the hendrix cd's - but i have e-mailed the man that did - he assured me they were just played stright from the master tapes to dat - and i have no reason to doubt him

you can actually tell a non mastered cd - it has a wonderful rawness - very right there - not the sort of plastic sheen that you get on more blatantly commercial recordings

[nuffink]

As a diversion from playing with the idiot... Does anyone remember looking out for "A Porky Prime Cut" scratched into the runout groove? Always a sign of a quality job.

[UltraWill]

I'm not getting into the debate, but why keep posting Davor? Obviously, you believe X and everyone else believes Y, so even if you are correct, in the eyes of everyone else you just seem like more of a dunce. With every reply they tear you down more, so why bother? I'm sure you have more productive things to do than get worked up on the internet.

It's like the old saying goes:
"Debating on the internet is like racing in the special olympics, even if you win, you're still a retard."
-Confuscious I think?

[ericj23]

now i always thought porky was something to do with the pressing plant - like i always looked for the little nsc logo - means pressed in detroit - but maybe your right

ive been talking porky's skills down

but you live and learn (or at least some of us do)

[nuffink]

now i always thought porky was something to do with the pressing plant - like i always looked for the little nsc logo - means pressed in detroit - but maybe your right

ive been talking porky's skills down

but you live and learn (or at least some of us do)

Yep, you're right... http://tafkac.org/science/lp_grooves.html

[davor]

ok prove it - what is the differnce between a red book cd and a cd-rom - dead easy question shouldn't require more than a one sentence answer

CD-roms (yellowbook cds) are normally used for data storage, and redbook cd-s for digital audio (CD-DA). Redbook can contain only up to 99 tracks of audio, while cd-rom can contain thousands of files. CD-roms are more exacting about error correction, and they devote an extra chunk of data sector to a second method of detcting and fixing flaws...whereas while a cd encounters errors it does interpolation and does the "maskinG", continuing the playback...