reverb test - 5 plugins and 1 hardware
- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 2 Feb, 2003 from lost in music
I also tend to 3 as the best
1 + 2 + 6 color the sound too much
4 + 5 are in the middle of good and bad
1 + 2 + 6 color the sound too much
4 + 5 are in the middle of good and bad
sound is vibration, vibration is life
- Beware the Quoth
- 35476 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Jeez quoth Why don't you just tell us which reverb was used for each audio example? Otherwise this is not educational. 
Because some people will start to judge by name rather than sound.
Obviously he'll tell us at some point, and reading the 'blind' reviews will be more than educational
Because some people will start to judge by name rather than sound.
Obviously he'll tell us at some point, and reading the 'blind' reviews will be more than educational
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
He gave the answers in the first page 3/4 of the way down.whyterabbyt wrote:Obviously he'll tell us at some point, and reading the 'blind' reviews will be more than educational
My choices tend to back up existing paradigms..
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- KVRian
- 769 posts since 2 Apr, 2005
RoomWorks is simply Magnus Ambiance, with some extra presets and surround features. But the sound and performance (including CPU spikes) is the same.AudioWhore wrote:Someone should try the 'Steinberg RoomWorks VST' that comes with SX3. Its really quite niceBit like the Sonitus one
I own most of these plugins. They are all so different that I find this comparison to be bogus. I agree that when they are all just used for a big wash, they tend to sound similar, but that's hardly how these reverbs would be used in practice.
The thing about cheap reverbs is that they are very subject to source material. Certain notes can set them off on some very harsh resonances or flutters. So it's not really fair to compare them. All of them can be set to sound extremely bad, and all of them can be set to sound useable. The Sonitus reverb (I have this as part of the defunct Ultrafunk pack, but it's the same) is extremely light on CPU, and considering that it's amazing it sounds so good. Ambiance is a cpu hog, and generally it is capable of much denser, smoother reverbs. It's also big and fake sounding, which may or may not appeal. Personally, i'm still looking. Recently i've been using Glaceverb, and excellent freebie that should have been included in this roundup.
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- KVRian
- 1215 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
Um, don't laugh... well, laugh, but if possible, please include Fruity Reverb in your test. 

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- KVRian
- 1215 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
whats up with this crap Quicktime browser plugin... it mutes for two seconds after starting an mp3!
Also, I couldn't find a lot of difference between them... but thats because I am on $20 portable headphones...
Also, I couldn't find a lot of difference between them... but thats because I am on $20 portable headphones...

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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 709 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Phoenix, Arizona, USA
I agree, this is not a very conclusive test, and subject to a lot of variables based on source material and context. It is interesting however, and it did reveal which can be more metallic and which have pulses or warbles in the tail on a random voice phrase.
After all the good response, I was thinking I'd like to try it again. This time using a nice dry sample, perhaps such as found on the new Arts Acoustic mp3 demos ( http://www.artsacoustic.com/samples/13acc_git_dry.mp3 or other?), then playing this into my hardware eventide eclipse on a pleasing setting (I assume with a long tail so we can hear that aspect). Then I'll post the settings (room size, density, decay, etc.), and then let us all see how close we can get with our "humble" plugins (that is, humble in price compared to this expensive unit.)
If anyone needs space to upload your sound files I can provide it.
Thanks again!
Eric
After all the good response, I was thinking I'd like to try it again. This time using a nice dry sample, perhaps such as found on the new Arts Acoustic mp3 demos ( http://www.artsacoustic.com/samples/13acc_git_dry.mp3 or other?), then playing this into my hardware eventide eclipse on a pleasing setting (I assume with a long tail so we can hear that aspect). Then I'll post the settings (room size, density, decay, etc.), and then let us all see how close we can get with our "humble" plugins (that is, humble in price compared to this expensive unit.)
If anyone needs space to upload your sound files I can provide it.
Thanks again!
Eric
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- KVRAF
- 1682 posts since 13 Oct, 2003 from Oulu, Finland
This test only shows how the reverb sounds as a clearly audible effect. I almost never use reverbs as an effect. I usually use them just for mixing, to blend the sound nicely into the mix. This requires as transparent reverb as possible. Would it be possible to have such a test also?
On the other hand, if such a test would be done, It might only test people's tastes on mixes. So everyone probably should try all those reverbs out in their own mix and see which gives the "blending sound" they are expecting to get from the reverbs...
On the other hand, if such a test would be done, It might only test people's tastes on mixes. So everyone probably should try all those reverbs out in their own mix and see which gives the "blending sound" they are expecting to get from the reverbs...
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
i do appreciate this sort of stuff - it appeals to my mad scientest nature - but the test reverbs are basically a hardware unit versus those free in sonar - now someone could do the m2 and the princeton i think it would really muddy the waters still thoughts - before looking at answers
i liked number 3 as it was the only one without mettallic ringing - but i suspect this is becuase the tail is much quieter
4 seems to have earlier reflections - the reverb kicks in quicker on the note change than the other ones
2 very drony - is thtat the lexicon
1& 6 seem a little mettalic
5 is nice
before i check to see whether i have spotted the posh reverb (3 or 5) i would say that the differences in settings mean that I may have chosen the one that sounded most how I would stick reverb on this vocal (if only i could sing it!)
i liked number 3 as it was the only one without mettallic ringing - but i suspect this is becuase the tail is much quieter
4 seems to have earlier reflections - the reverb kicks in quicker on the note change than the other ones
2 very drony - is thtat the lexicon
1& 6 seem a little mettalic
5 is nice
before i check to see whether i have spotted the posh reverb (3 or 5) i would say that the differences in settings mean that I may have chosen the one that sounded most how I would stick reverb on this vocal (if only i could sing it!)
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
it would appear on re-listening after knowing the answers that the posh reverb does stand out as above - and that the tail is more colourful/variable but it's not totally stunning
but surely the davantage of an eventide is the flexibility - lots of diferent rooms with plenty of parameter control - that's why i would love to hear it against the m2 or one of the poco ones
thanks for the idea tho
but surely the davantage of an eventide is the flexibility - lots of diferent rooms with plenty of parameter control - that's why i would love to hear it against the m2 or one of the poco ones
thanks for the idea tho
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