RIAA Launches New Round of Lawsuits
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- KVRist
- 178 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from France
Lawnmower Of The Damned ,
I'm not doing the apology of record labels, as i wrote above, i'm aware of their exploitation of artists...
i also remember this artist saying how bad he felt, because his album was already on p2p and was getting evicted from his house by then end of the week because he had no money. and i thought Ok there are corporations but also powerless people trying to do something of their lives. call me stupid if you want to.
Same here some developpers are offering some of their plugins for free, and are making commercial ones... they decided it, and their choices should be respected.
But being on the same forum, it feels like hypocracy is coming into play when it comes to software and that there's a difference between illegal downloads and illegal downloads.
The way the artists are deciding to make their living is THEIR business (live shows etc). same if some plugins developpers decides to licence their findings to a bigger companies it doesn't give you the right to use their commercial plugins for free.
anyway that's an endless debate. even though the subject is simple: you don't own an item, what are your rights on it.
I'm not doing the apology of record labels, as i wrote above, i'm aware of their exploitation of artists...
i also remember this artist saying how bad he felt, because his album was already on p2p and was getting evicted from his house by then end of the week because he had no money. and i thought Ok there are corporations but also powerless people trying to do something of their lives. call me stupid if you want to.
Same here some developpers are offering some of their plugins for free, and are making commercial ones... they decided it, and their choices should be respected.
But being on the same forum, it feels like hypocracy is coming into play when it comes to software and that there's a difference between illegal downloads and illegal downloads.
The way the artists are deciding to make their living is THEIR business (live shows etc). same if some plugins developpers decides to licence their findings to a bigger companies it doesn't give you the right to use their commercial plugins for free.
anyway that's an endless debate. even though the subject is simple: you don't own an item, what are your rights on it.
"It is not a man's conscience that determines his existence. It is his existence that determines his conscience."
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- KVRAF
- 3528 posts since 18 Apr, 2002 from British Columbia, Canada
there are two sides if you are smart enough to actually understand. there is only one side if you are a terminally left-brained, 'everything is black or white' type of person, with a matching emotional intelligence level and shoe size.
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- KVRist
- 178 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from France
Yes agree John, unlike the look of things i'm not talking with bitter here.JohnVulich wrote:I should also point out that it is not my intent to defend music piracy but to be critical of the RIAA and perhaps show the beneficial aspects of P2P systems. There are, after all, 2 sides to every story.RNJ wrote:Interesting Reading ...thanks for the tip !
Though the decision of such actions comes from the owner of the recordings...
and my point starts and ends there.
at the end there's nothing we can do when it comes to the true intentions of people,
if they had in mind to steal they'll steal, if they want to be informed, idem.
and i'm also aware that the recent RIAA lawsuits against P2P have not for motivation to defend the powerless artists, P2P are just a vector of threats for other corporations as well, and now we're talking about big money...
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- KVRAF
- 4822 posts since 14 Mar, 2002 from Somewhere else, on principle
C'mon dude... it really isn't fair to blame his personal troubles on his album appearing on P2P. There are thousands of Artists making exremely lucrative careers, in the music industry, and their music shows up on P2P systems just as easily. Perhaps his music sucks, there isn't proper marketing behind it or he just plain doesn't know how to manage his finances properly. There certainly must be other factors coming into play in his particular situation.RNJ wrote:i also remember this artist saying how bad he felt, because his album was already on p2p and was getting evicted from his house by then end of the week because he had no money. and i thought Ok there are corporations but also powerless people trying to do something of their lives. call me stupid if you want to.
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- KVRist
- 178 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from France
No idea, but well it worked on me and opened my eyes to make the difference between artists & corporations.
"It is not a man's conscience that determines his existence. It is his existence that determines his conscience."
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1411 posts since 25 Sep, 2003 from The Dirty South, USA
Exactly!!!JohnVulich wrote:I should also point out that it is not my intent to defend music piracy but to be critical of the RIAA and perhaps show the beneficial aspects of P2P systems. There are, after all, 2 sides to every story.RNJ wrote:Interesting Reading ...thanks for the tip !
Though the decision of such actions comes from the owner of the recordings...
and my point starts and ends there.
at the end there's nothing we can do when it comes to the true intentions of people,
if they had in mind to steal they'll steal, if they want to be informed, idem.