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zircon · Post by **zircon** » Mon May 02, 2005 5:17 pm

As the topic suggests, I'm looking for free or commercial bundles/libraries of one-shot drum samples. Specifically, those fitting into styles like general electronic, abstract hip-hop, chemical, dance, etc. I currently own the entire Sonic Reality line of drum capsules, Stylus RMX, Battery 2, Stormdrum, and 2000+ assorted free samples, but I still need WAY more. I don't want kits, I don't want loops - I'm really looking for just loads and loads of high quality (not MP3 or lofi or useless stuff) oneshot kicks, snares, hihats, and crashes. I know about the Doru Malaila (sp? sorry) collection, which I plan on purchasing, but are there any others?

For reference, I'm a big fan of Crystal Method (all of their albums and songs) as well as Prodigy (their latest three albums), among others, and those are two bands who I'd like to have similar sounds too. I'm getting there with the samples I have now, but I keep coming up short.

Kraku · Post by **Kraku** » Mon May 02, 2005 8:16 pm

I've once mentioned it on these forums and I'll advertice it again: Dance Megadrums 1. It is old, no doubt, but since it's in a digital format, the sound quality hasn't degraded abit

Don't let the age fool you: they are of EXCELLENT quality. There are about 5000 drum hits in that collection, sampled from LOADS of different drum machines, unprocessed (no extra stuff added what-so-ever). They are grouped to bassdrums, snares, hihats, etc... And then there are also drum kits, but I rarely use those. I usually just go browsing the bassdrum and snare folders.

There is one little downside to it: They are in Akai CD format, but you can easily rip them as .wav files and/or Battery kits (or some other) with a demo version of CDXtract

I got mine from here: http://bestservice.de
Just search for "Dance Megadrums" and you'll find the sample CD

(it actually has two CD's in it).

PS. If you prefer processed drum samples (compression/distortion/etc. 100% ready dance stuff to add to your tracks), try Dance Megadrums 2.

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Mon May 02, 2005 8:27 pm

Dude, with all that content at your disposal you should maybe think about making your own?

By layering and processing vinyl samples, electronic sounds and other stuff you can make a library of sounds unique to your personal library.

IMO everyone needs a little personal stash!

But never the less, my recommendation is NI Synthetic - great selection of single hits, loads of variety. They just release volume 2 so you might get a deal on 1.

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Tue May 03, 2005 1:35 am

Er, trust me, I'm no stranger to layering and processing. One of my latest projects uses about 50 separate drumsamples for only a handful of different hits (eg. crash, bd, snare, closed hat, open hat) and over 60 separate VST effects. Even with this, it's not enough to make up for deficiencies in the timbre of the sounds themselves.

I'll be sure to check out the Dance Megadrums set, but I'm not really looking for drum machines. I went through much of Stylus RMX's library of oneshots and one-by-one exported the ones I thought were best for my own use, including all their drum machine samples. I didn't find them to be terribly useful. For an ideal example of what I'm talking about, I'd like to reference the Crystal Method song "Over the Line". Listen to the drums there - I can't even articulate exactly what makes them sound good, but it's the exact type of sound I love, and the exact type of sound I do not have. Here's an example for your listening pleasure.

http://www.soundtempest.net/example1.mp3

Another song of theirs, from a different album (more recent), "High and Low", has another type of sound I'm very fond of but cannot replicate.

http://www.soundtempest.net/example2.mp3

Thanks for the help so far. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Kraku · Post by **Kraku** » Tue May 03, 2005 6:50 am

zircon wrote:Er, trust me, I'm no stranger to layering and processing. One of my latest projects uses about 50 separate drumsamples for only a handful of different hits (eg. crash, bd, snare, closed hat, open hat) and over 60 separate VST effects. Even with this, it's not enough to make up for deficiencies in the timbre of the sounds themselves.

I'll be sure to check out the Dance Megadrums set, but I'm not really looking for drum machines. I went through much of Stylus RMX's library of oneshots and one-by-one exported the ones I thought were best for my own use, including all their drum machine samples. I didn't find them to be terribly useful. For an ideal example of what I'm talking about, I'd like to reference the Crystal Method song "Over the Line". Listen to the drums there - I can't even articulate exactly what makes them sound good, but it's the exact type of sound I love, and the exact type of sound I do not have. Here's an example for your listening pleasure.

http://www.soundtempest.net/example1.mp3

Another song of theirs, from a different album (more recent), "High and Low", has another type of sound I'm very fond of but cannot replicate.

http://www.soundtempest.net/example2.mp3

Thanks for the help so far. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Dude, you don't need more samples. You need to learn to use compressor and other production techniques

The first loop, for example, is just acoustic drumLOOP compressed and processed (and maybe sliced and so fit perfectly to the beat timings). Look into sample loops and chop them up with a beatslicer. Then run it through a fitting compressor with good parameters and you get what you're after in the first example.

The second example isn't a sliced up drumloop, but hand build MIDI stuff. It's still processed with compressors etc.

Summa summarum: learn to use compressors.

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:47 pm

I repeat, this is not an issue of compression. I am well-versed in their usage and have numerous compression, limiting, and maximizing plugins which I use regularly on drum parts. I know how to use a beatslicer as well.

You could be right about it being an acoustic drumloop, but somehow I doubt it considering so much of their stuff is sequenced from scratch.

Kraku · Post by **Kraku** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:12 pm

Believe me: The first example IS acoustic stuff...

topaz · Post by **topaz** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:17 pm

the loop on that 1st example sounds 100% the same as many from the old Gota Yashiki loop CD.

very typical loop.

Kraku wrote:Believe me: The first example IS acoustic stuff...

Kraku · Post by **Kraku** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:19 pm

topaz wrote:the loop on that 1st example sounds 100% the same as many from the old Gota Yashaki loop CD.

very typical loop.

Kraku wrote:Believe me: The first example IS acoustic stuff...

I have Gota Yashiki loop CD, and now that you mention it, yes, it does

Proves my point even further

EDIT:
I got it for $9!!!!

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... ku=AMGCD21

topaz · Post by **topaz** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:21 pm

indeed,

that loop was a classic about 7 or 8 years ago.

Kraku wrote:I have Gota Yashiki loop CD, and now that you mention it, yes, it does Proves my point even further

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:54 pm

Bah, well that's a bit of a letdown - but that's just one song out of many. The snare really doesn't sound like any acoustic snares I have - it's much less resonant and much deeper. eg. NSkit 7 - the snare sounds nothing like the one used in the example, not even close. I'm not really into loop usage to begin with for main drumlines.

Kraku · Post by **Kraku** » Tue May 03, 2005 8:01 pm

The Crystal Method still use lots of acoustic drum stuff (samples & sliced up loops) in their production. How about trying the Bob Clearmountain Drums 2 (http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... sku=EW-041)? It also has excellent quality drum single hit samples. There you can find single hit drums that sound like that first example. The only thing missing is the compressor processing, which you have to add yourself. Drums can be miked up and recorded in so many different ways that you can't say that "a snare drum is just a snare drum and will always sound quite similar". That's just simply not true. Try that Bob's CD. It's probably what you need right now to get that sound.

Samplecraze · Post by **Samplecraze** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:39 am

http://www.samplecraze.com/section.php?xSec=35

Really BIG drum sounds.....

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Thu May 05, 2005 11:08 pm

Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm going to spend a little more time running through the RMX oneshots and combining+processing what I have now, but I also decided to pick up that Gota Yashiki CD, Clearmountain Drums II, and Steve Smith Rhythmic Jouney which seems to be in the same style.

Samplecraze; is there any one particular CD you'd recommend from that library?

Xenox.AFL · Post by **Xenox.AFL** » Fri May 06, 2005 5:09 pm

Ahhh, Crystal Method, I love them and I love there Drum Parts, too...
Great stuff... Are there really using that CD? Great, and still $9?! Argh, shit, and i still own no credit card, shit...

Do you have some sound examples from the Sampling CD?

Frank

Looking for large collections of HQ single drum samples