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deggy · Post by **deggy** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:37 pm

Cummon. Let's hear it. Does it suck? Not that it matters i guess. I thought it was tolerable. A little more repetitive than the other albums (strangely enough). A few choice cuts like the first track and the 12th track but otherwise, a pretty boring album. Almost every track starts out with some cheesy distorted bass riff emphasizes the b7. The songs seem to stagnate and just sit there without any sort of development. The tracks don't just seem to go anywhere. And a lot of them sound strangely similar (not as bad as Weezer's Pinkerton which reuses the same chord prog over and over).

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:42 pm

oh and has anyone been able to download the liner notes? it won't work for me for some reason.

Majken · Post by **Majken** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:46 pm

I f**king love it, then again I'm a fanboy. "right where it belongs" is amazing, get goosebumps every single time i listen to it. Another favourite is "Everyday is always the same", and of course the single "The hand that feeds". Great album that just grows on you, much like The Downward Spiral.

/Majken <- Fanboy

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:49 pm

yeah, i find i'm liking it more and more as i listen to it. for some reason, it made me like the fragile a little more than i did at the time. It'll be fun to see the live show (twice) in less than a week from now in a 2000 seater.

mgcollins21 · Post by **mgcollins21** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:52 pm

I haven't heard the whole album, but the tracks I have heard seem to totally abandon the industrial feel in favor of radio friendly commercial rock. I probably end up buying it anyway, but any comment on the sound from someone who's heard the whole thing?

mr.me · Post by **mr.me** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:54 pm

deggy wrote:Cummon. Let's hear it. Does it suck? Not that it matters i guess. I thought it was tolerable. A little more repetitive than the other albums (strangely enough). A few choice cuts like the first track and the 12th track but otherwise, a pretty boring album. Almost every track starts out with some cheesy distorted bass riff emphasizes the b7. The songs seem to stagnate and just sit there without any sort of development. The tracks don't just seem to go anywhere. And a lot of them sound strangely similar (not as bad as Weezer's Pinkerton which reuses the same chord prog over and over).

I agree. After broken something was lost, it was a bit down hill from there.

Still a big fan of the older stuff tho'.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:56 pm

I like it. Not keen on the slow stuff, and the lyrics are the usual fodder, but about 2/3 of the album is good stuff.

Much better than the last studio album, whatever that was called.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:58 pm

mgcollins21 wrote:I haven't heard the whole album, but the tracks I have heard seem to totally abandon the industrial feel in favor of radio friendly commercial rock. I probably end up buying it anyway, but any comment on the sound from someone who's heard the whole thing?

Yep, its def more radio friendly from that point of view, but its still quite dirty and has some cool noises going on, althought not to the extremes of Broken and DS.

To be honest, the whole album sounds like trax that never made it to DS, but its still has its moments...played loud

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:14 pm

to me it sounds like a whole album of "Fragile" rejects. The songs tend to sound a lot more raw than anything they've put out over the past decade though. It seems like trent wasn't as concerned with writing perticularly "good" songs as much as just putting out an album of songs that would sound really rockin when played live.

_oswald · Post by **_oswald** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:30 pm

I like it a good deal. I wouldn't call it the 'album of the century' but it has some really, really great tracks ('right where it belongs' is one of the best songs I've probably ever heard). Plus Trent took a good deal of creative risks on the album and I commend him a great deal for not making thirteen tracks of variations of 'Closer' or 'Head Like a Hole', which is all that most people tend to remember him for (though his best work tends to be his slower choons, those are always amazing).

My only issue is that that some songs end right when they should ramp up into a frantic bombast of distortion and chaos.

A-. Really good stuff.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:53 am

this is weird. i figured there were more nin fans on kvr than this. i assumed that this thread would have like 10 pages by now. it's not like i think nin are that great a band, it's just strange because i figured they were pretty influential on people who listen to/make electronic music nowadays. oh well. i guess they're not really that relevant any more. that's what happens when you take half a decade to release an album of mediocre material. i find it kinda strange which bands stayed in the spotlight from the 90s. Who ever would have thought No Doubt, Moby, members or Guns n' Roses or members of Rage Against the Machine would still be charting in the 21st century.

liars&ashes · Post by **liars&ashes** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:07 am

If Witha Teetha was a debut album by a new band,it'd be getting shredded for sounding too 80's,and for pretty blatantly ripping off Radiohead and David Bowie.

electrik noize · Post by **electrik noize** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:15 am

It doesn't do a thing for me. I really enjoyed the Fragile and to this day it's a pleasure to listen to. As well as the the Bonus disc "Still" that came with the live album for the Fragility tour. "still" has some remakes of songs that are on the Fragile. With Teeth is flat out boring, the songs don't go anywhere, and the production is really lacking, with out of tune vocals and sloppy performances.

Now don't get me wrong, I DO NOT like autotune or placing everything on a grid to be perfectly lined up rhythmically. But the production on his older albums is much better. With Teeth sounds like a bunch of half finished demos that could have gone somewhere but in the spirit of keeping everything "raw" it came out uninspiring.

mgcollins21 · Post by **mgcollins21** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:23 am

I still consider the downward spiral the be one of the greatest albums ever. It still inspires me after owning it for 10 years. I never would have gotten into any other electronic music(probably) if it weren't for that album. Trent's industrial sound is hard to compete with, and that's why this new album dissappoints me. If I wanted radio friendly commercial rock, I'd buy nickelback.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Thu May 05, 2005 2:24 am

electrik noize wrote:It doesn't do a thing for me. I really enjoyed the Fragile and to this day it's a pleasure to listen to. As well as the the Bonus disc "Still" that came with the live album for the Fragility tour. "still" has some remakes of songs that are on the Fragile. With Teeth is flat out boring, the songs don't go anywhere, and the production is really lacking, with out of tune vocals and sloppy performances.

Now don't get me wrong, I DO NOT like autotune or placing everything on a grid to be perfectly lined up rhythmically. But the production on his older albums is much better. With Teeth sounds like a bunch of half finished demos that could have gone somewhere but in the spirit of keeping everything "raw" it came out uninspiring.

well put. I love the Still CD. it's prob one of my fav nin albums. Yeah, the new disc just doesn't really feel completed.

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