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pmwaring · Post by **pmwaring** » Thu May 05, 2005 9:09 am

Has anybody made a VST to emulate the old Dytronics CS-5 Tri-Stereo Chorus? Or is there anything close?

In case you don't know; the CS-5 was a really sweet sounding chorus unit from the 80's. It had three choruses; left, centre and right and sounded very lush and warm.

Rangtangtang · Post by **Rangtangtang** » Thu May 05, 2005 9:14 am

Any picture of it or write-up about it?

pmwaring · Post by **pmwaring** » Thu May 05, 2005 9:23 am

Here's a description.

Harmony Central

Dytronics was also known as Songbird. Here's a picture of the songbird version

Picture

urock · Post by **urock** » Thu May 05, 2005 6:49 pm

I don't know of a vst, but the Line 6 MM4 Modulation Modeler has a setting Tri Chorus which says it is modeled from the Songbird Tri-Stereo Chorus. I don't own one so I don't know how it sounds.

http://www.line6.com/productDetail.html?model=34

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:18 pm

I'm trying to think...what is the best chorus VST/DX plug-in? I pretty much hate them all; I find they all sound too "flangey" or metallic-sounding. I still use Bass Chorus the most, find it has the smoothest sound.

I'd love to hear that Dytronics one. Or this one: http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM00 ... lange.html

dharmawan · Post by **dharmawan** » Sat May 07, 2005 8:52 am

voxengo has the smoothest vst chorus

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat May 07, 2005 1:56 pm

bduffy wrote:I'm trying to think...what is the best chorus VST/DX plug-in? I pretty much hate them all; I find they all sound too "flangey" or metallic-sounding. I still use Bass Chorus the most, find it has the smoothest sound.

Kjaerhus GMO-1 is great.
It's a very clean and smooth plug.

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Sat May 07, 2005 2:24 pm

bduffy wrote:I'm trying to think...what is the best chorus VST/DX plug-in? I pretty much hate them all; I find they all sound too "flangey" or metallic-sounding.

You might get some love from the old DSPFX multi element chorus.

For the odd time I use a chorus effect, this one seems to mix well for me. There are others that sound nice by themselves, but when placed in a whole mix it's a struggle to get them sitting in a way that suits me. Such a personal thing this.

One thing that is very nice about the DSPFX chorus is the ability to pan each of the four elements, as well as having different delay, mod depth, and mod rate settings per element. A very sensible approach too seldom seen.

MrTom · Post by **MrTom** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:34 am

bduffy wrote:I'm trying to think...what is the best chorus VST/DX plug-in? I pretty much hate them all; I find they all sound too "flangey" or metallic-sounding. I still use Bass Chorus the most, find it has the smoothest sound.

I'd love to hear that Dytronics one. Or this one: http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM00 ... lange.html

I like the PSP nitro Chorus very much.
It sounds like a good hardware chorus imho.

multree · Post by **multree** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:39 am

have you tried Betabugs' MONSTAchorus???

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Sun May 08, 2005 2:49 am

Many people don't know it, but Hammond made a triple vibrato/chorus unit several years ago. It was for their very rare G-100 organ. (It was by far, the largest tonewheel organ Hammond ever made.)

Here, you can get a glimpse of something that few mortal men have ever seen before:

Lovely, isn't it?

This tall rack-mountable chassis has three large LC filter banks, three rotary scanners, and a synchronous motor to keep it all spinning at the proper speed.

I just thought I would post a picture of this cool old piece of hardware of mine, to remind people of the "other world" which exists without plugins, DSP technology, BBD chips, or even transistors.

take care,
McLilith
--
Yes, those are oil cups, underneath three of the pulleys!

brianbrian · Post by **brianbrian** » Sun May 08, 2005 7:38 am

That is just badass.

Voidoid Surrealist · Post by **Voidoid Surrealist** » Sun May 08, 2005 8:06 am

And here, since you mentioned it, is a G-100

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Sun May 08, 2005 8:59 am

McLilith wrote:Many people don't know it, but Hammond made a triple vibrato/chorus unit several years ago. It was for their very rare G-100 organ. (It was by far, the largest tonewheel organ Hammond ever made.)[snip]
This tall rack-mountable chassis has three large LC filter banks, three rotary scanners, and a synchronous motor to keep it all spinning at the proper speed.

Hi McL,

Can you enlighten me on what a scanner is/how it works?

Regards,
Eg

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Sun May 08, 2005 4:00 pm

egbert wrote:Hi McL,

Can you enlighten me on what a scanner is/how it works?

Hmmm... It's sort of a large, custom-made, air-dielectric, motorized, rotating capacitor. It's purpose is to continuously, sequentially, and smoothly fade between several different signals.

Here's a link to a site that describes the insides of one, and has some drawings.

Note: Much of the material in that link was taken from an old Hammond service manual. The author was too lazy to disassemble an actual scanner and take his own pictures, etc. So, you'll have to settle for some low-rez scans of old service manual drawings. If there is enough interest, I might be able to find a disassembled scanner to take some decent photos of.

take care,
McLilith