What would be the best way to cut a house track up and just take say a synth or lead out of it and then add chorus a bit of flanger ect..
I know you can put the track in waves but that does`nt seperate sounds...
Wouls it just be a case of trying to recreate those instruments sounds..
The problem is nowadays alot of house music has sampled 80`s tracks but do they just listen to them and try to recreated the rhythm...
Whats the alternative..
sAMPLING
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
you can out the track in waves 
there's a couple of fft subtraction plugs.. but mebbe you are to for the thinking about great phase inversion..
always remember, very hard, +1 + -1 = 0
in music, that means if you invert a waveform and then paste it on top of itself, you will get NOTHING
if the past-ee happens to contain more information than the past-or, then you do church in cornwall
there's a couple of fft subtraction plugs.. but mebbe you are to for the thinking about great phase inversion..
always remember, very hard, +1 + -1 = 0
in music, that means if you invert a waveform and then paste it on top of itself, you will get NOTHING
if the past-ee happens to contain more information than the past-or, then you do church in cornwall
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRian
- 779 posts since 21 Jan, 2005 from The Vale of Eden
I'd do Church anywherexoxos wrote:then you do church in cornwall
doesn't have to be in Cornwall.
I'd sell my story to the press afterwards though, but then I'm cheap slut
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 5 Jan, 2005
i have `nt got a clue what your talking about fellow,may english would help..xoxos wrote:you can out the track in waves
there's a couple of fft subtraction plugs.. but mebbe you are to for the thinking about great phase inversion..
always remember, very hard, +1 + -1 = 0
in music, that means if you invert a waveform and then paste it on top of itself, you will get NOTHING
if the past-ee happens to contain more information than the past-or, then you do church in cornwall
Go slower were not as advanced as you mate.
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- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
can't, you gotta blink
lemme put it this way
back in t day on h/w samplers, you got a lousy lpf..
so, you are wondering, how did one manage to derive a hpf effect from their samplers?
by copying the sample, inverting it, then placing it in the same key group, which was very important there, but not at all important here, and is extraneous information you'll have to learn to distinguish for yourself if you have one..
voila, lpf only one copy of the sample, trigger the all-important key group, and amazing high pass effects
meh, you can always read it twice
sorry i'm subhuman and all
lemme put it this way
back in t day on h/w samplers, you got a lousy lpf..
so, you are wondering, how did one manage to derive a hpf effect from their samplers?
by copying the sample, inverting it, then placing it in the same key group, which was very important there, but not at all important here, and is extraneous information you'll have to learn to distinguish for yourself if you have one..
voila, lpf only one copy of the sample, trigger the all-important key group, and amazing high pass effects
meh, you can always read it twice
sorry i'm subhuman and all
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
sorry, i meant you gotta blink *for yourself*
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 159 posts since 5 Jan, 2005
Ok so what you saying then is to copy the part and then run it through a plugin...
Can you give us a link to one or several of these please..
Loooks like I could do with a good filter as well if poss.
Can you give us a link to one or several of these please..
Loooks like I could do with a good filter as well if poss.
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- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
do a search in fx forum for 'frequency remover' or cancellation or something.. you ain't the boss a me :p
what i'm saying is describing a basic mechanic that might help you seperate sounds from tracks..
eg. if you have a part that's identical apart from one element, if you invert one copy and paste the waves together, you'e left with the difference.. ie. the different part.. basic math.. if the track is all digital and stuff.
but this principle.. invert, subtract.. begin :p
what i'm saying is describing a basic mechanic that might help you seperate sounds from tracks..
eg. if you have a part that's identical apart from one element, if you invert one copy and paste the waves together, you'e left with the difference.. ie. the different part.. basic math.. if the track is all digital and stuff.
but this principle.. invert, subtract.. begin :p
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 10 Mar, 2003
what's the point really? Why not create the sounds from scratch with a synth or sampler? The only way it's gonna work (sampling parts of another record) is if the sounds are playing solo for a bit. But when the whole track is playing, no amount of filtering is gonna get those sounds seperated. (Yes theoretically you can do the phase-invert thing, but it's not really practical is it?) The time would be better spent writing something original.
And usually the house music that samples complete 80's (or other era's gone by) tracks are crap anyway, compared to the original tracks. (there are exceptions of course) A lot of the times they are pretty much cover versions rather than sampled, so they created similar sounds from scratch and just stole the melody and vocals.
And usually the house music that samples complete 80's (or other era's gone by) tracks are crap anyway, compared to the original tracks. (there are exceptions of course) A lot of the times they are pretty much cover versions rather than sampled, so they created similar sounds from scratch and just stole the melody and vocals.