KVR Audio

Scr1pt3r · Post by **Scr1pt3r** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:42 pm

New Aodix Released :

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4.0.0.8
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- Added: Event routing pins. Aodix now supports event (MIDI) processing plugins (such as sequencers, arpeggiators, etc).
- Added: New more user friendly configuration system (dialog based).
- Added: Configuration option to mask MIDI input channel messages to current Aodix user selected edit channel.
- Added: User position, zooming and pre-release are now local pattern registers.
- Added: Instance selected program name and program label now appears in instance editor window caption.
- Added: Timeclocks now shows milliseconds too.
- Added: Instance label aliases.
- Added: New data block transposing shortcut action.
(Ctrl+F1 decrement values, Ctrl+F2 increment values depending selected row).
- Modif: Totally new, improved and optimized GUI and ENGINE code.
- Modif: Bitmapped based GUI.
- Modif: Texts are now left aligned.
- Modif: Repositioned vumeter.
- Fixed: MIDI Files import bug.
- Fixed: Small wrong behaviour concerning usage of ENTER key in 'Pattern' editing mode.
- Fixed: Another small bug when entering manually MIDI event program change (using ENTER in 'Note' editing mode),
the event data was wrong initialized and edit overwrite mode was ignored.
- Fixed: Issue appearing while dragging objects (events, markers, etc) when scrolling or clipping limits.
- Fixed: Automation big bug fixed. When automation record was done tweaking controls from VST Instance Editors,
recorded automation events were added with the current user selected instance as index, instead the instance
index belonging to the vst editor window.
- Miscl: Terazillions of other undocumented internal changes and improvements about 75% of the code have been rewrote).

For those who are interested there are some aodix track in the Arguru Software forum : http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=51

You can d/l the tracks and load them in aodix to get a feeling of what is going on.

Congrats for Arguru for this new great release

Scr1pt3r · Post by **Scr1pt3r** » Thu May 05, 2005 9:20 pm

I Dont get it...
Where are the people who use/used trackers ?

odo · Post by **odo** » Fri May 06, 2005 11:53 am

hi Scr1pt3r
i use it

and love it

Odo

droolmaster0 · Post by **droolmaster0** » Fri May 06, 2005 1:36 pm

I played with this for the first time last night, and I really enjoyed it. I think that it was the immediacy of the parameter modulation, the new ability to allow midi events between objects (a requirement), and the fact that I really wanted to save my work but couldn't that made me buy it just now. I hope I don't have to wait the full 48 hours.

Scr1pt3r · Post by **Scr1pt3r** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:12 pm

droolmaster0 wrote:I played with this for the first time last night, and I really enjoyed it. I think that it was the immediacy of the parameter modulation, the new ability to allow midi events between objects (a requirement), and the fact that I really wanted to save my work but couldn't that made me buy it just now. I hope I don't have to wait the full 48 hours.

Good to hear that man, its a product which gets better and better - Arguru developing it on a daily basis.
It would sure be nice to see some action going in the Arguru Software forum , I think that this product is good but I'm certain most of the people around here never downloaded the demo to check it out.

Here's a direct link to the Demo :
http://arguru.free.fr/fichiers/aodix.rar

Its not an installer, just the .exe needed to run the software.

Here are some mp3 created by Arguru in Aodix:

http://www.funnydivision.com/house/argu ... _starr.mp3

http://arguru.free.fr/fichiers/arguru_- ... eview).mp3

http://psycle.free.fr/arguru/Arguru_-_Too_Many.mp3

Have fun

SQ4 · Post by **SQ4** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:31 pm

I love __media_starr...
I love your programming work : you're (another) starr

Scr1pt3r · Post by **Scr1pt3r** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:33 pm

SQ4² wrote:I love __media_starr...
I love your programming work : you're (another) starr

hehe

Hope you're not talking about me... I'm not related to arguru.

droolmaster0 · Post by **droolmaster0** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:50 pm

Scr1pt3r wrote:
droolmaster0 wrote:I played with this for the first time last night, and I really enjoyed it. I think that it was the immediacy of the parameter modulation, the new ability to allow midi events between objects (a requirement), and the fact that I really wanted to save my work but couldn't that made me buy it just now. I hope I don't have to wait the full 48 hours.
Good to hear that man, its a product which gets better and better - Arguru developing it on a daily basis.
It would sure be nice to see some action going in the Arguru Software forum , I think that this product is good but I'm certain most of the people around here never downloaded the demo to check it out.

Here's a direct link to the Demo :
http://arguru.free.fr/fichiers/aodix.rar

Its not an installer, just the .exe needed to run the software.

Here are some mp3 created by Arguru in Aodix:

http://www.funnydivision.com/house/argu ... _starr.mp3

http://arguru.free.fr/fichiers/arguru_- ... eview).mp3

http://psycle.free.fr/arguru/Arguru_-_Too_Many.mp3

Have fun

Well thanks - I got my registration in an email a little while ago, so I can authorize when I get home. The application really has...what can I say - a creative flare to it. I really like it. And it seemed quite stable.

I will try to find the answers to my questions in the manual first, I promise - I definitely couldn't figure out how to do some stuff - like is it possible to undo an automation session (oops)...I've never used a tracker - this seems similar in some ways to the hosts I've used, but also very different. Definitely not used to the vertical events - that looks bizarre to me right now.

tlr · Post by **tlr** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:02 pm

Scr1pt3r wrote:I Dont get it...
Where are the people who use/used trackers ?

Aodix seems like a strange tracker to me. As far I can see it does not support "effect-commands" (i.e pitch slides/arpeggios/etc...). This makes it pretty much a standard sequencer to me. I feel that this is too limited. Trackers used to be about control over details.

/Daniel

Scr1pt3r · Post by **Scr1pt3r** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:16 pm

tlr wrote:
Scr1pt3r wrote:I Dont get it...
Where are the people who use/used trackers ?
Aodix seems like a strange tracker to me. As far I can see it does not support "effect-commands" (i.e pitch slides/arpeggios/etc...). This makes it pretty much a standard sequencer to me. I feel that this is too limited. Trackers used to be about control over details.

/Daniel

What you're talking about is a built in sampler to support internal commands.
In general you could load a sampler VSTi obviously but other than that I know that Arguru got some future plans for implementing an audio pool of a sort in aodix, probably a sampler as you describe.
It would probably be better if he'd answer you on that rather than me.

arguru · Post by **arguru** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:40 pm

Slides and arpeggios are way better easier to do with Aodix in my opinion than in other trackers. You have just to legate notes in the sequencer, (holding a note while u press a new one, then release the previously pressed), the program of the VSTi played must be set in monophonic/legato mode with some glide added if supports that. Another option is use the pitch bend wheel. I want to add pitchbend/midicc/automation 'drawing' to this thing in a hope near future.

Anyway, I agree that trackers had a big advantage in that kind of pitch control because it's 'effect' command / channel based nature, in this aspect MIDI is just a different world.

Undo Automation or Recording session will come in 4.0.0.9.

About arpeggiators, etc you could use some dedicated MIDI VST plugins out there. You could attach/sync even other sequencers into.

droolmaster0 · Post by **droolmaster0** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:43 pm

arguru wrote: Undo Automation or Recording session will come in 4.0.0.9.

Excellent - I read through all of the posts here last night and it really seems like you are dedicated to improving this software at a great rate.

May I ask where the name 'Aodix' came from?

Gene

tlr · Post by **tlr** » Fri May 06, 2005 9:02 pm

Hi, nice to see you comment on this.

arguru wrote:Slides and arpeggios are way better easier to do with Aodix in my opinion than in other trackers. You have just to legate notes in the sequencer, (holding a note while u press a new one, then release the previously pressed), the program of the VSTi played must be set in monophonic/legato mode with some glide added if supports that. Another option is use the pitch bend wheel. I want to add pitchbend/midicc/automation 'drawing' to this thing in a hope near future.

This is a good idea! Though, I would like it not being 'drawing', rather editing segments of pb/cc/automation changes. Preferably segment could be created as combinations of lines/splines/sinuses/etc...

arguru wrote:Anyway, I agree that trackers had a big advantage in that kind of pitch control because it's 'effect' command / channel based nature, in this aspect MIDI is just a different world.

MIDI is not entirely a different world. Effect-Commands map fine to MIDI. I used this a lot on Octamed on the Amiga. Pitch slides will slide using the pitchbend. ZTracker implements this aswell, but is limited in other ways.

arguru wrote:About arpeggiators, etc you could use some dedicated MIDI VST plugins out there. You could attach/sync even other sequencers into.

Maybe, but I haven't found one yet that I like. I would like to be able to set up arpeggios using programmable pitch bend + MIDI cc changes. Think: c64 wavetable arpeggios, only it comes out MIDI so you can control any VSTi, HW-synth with it.
In fact I never saw any software doing this so far.

Anyway, I must say that Aodix looks very promising, and I have been watching it closely.

Keep up the good work!

/Daniel

Scr1pt3r · Post by **Scr1pt3r** » Sat May 07, 2005 1:45 pm

tlr,
dont you think it would be a waste of time implementing such 'internal' commands which will basically be mapped to a VSTi pitch, modulation and etc. ?
That would be 2 different ways to do 1 thing.

And regarding the appregiator... I saw arguru sending an image of some plug, I'll let you know which plug is it once I find out.

tlr · Post by **tlr** » Sat May 07, 2005 5:07 pm

Scr1pt3r wrote:tlr,
dont you think it would be a waste of time implementing such 'internal' commands which will basically be mapped to a VSTi pitch, modulation and etc. ?

Obviously I don't!

Seriously, there is quite a big difference between having a sequencer with only recorded MIDI events, to a sequencer that has commands that will generate sequences of events! Ofcourse it does not have to be implemented as commands, it could be done as some kind of automation curves for pitch bend, cc, etc... This would then have to be lockable to a note event if it is supposed to do something similar to an effect command.

Scr1pt3r wrote:That would be 2 different ways to do 1 thing.

Yes, sort of, but I prefer a more structured approach than having to enter 5-minute sequences of raw MIDI events.

Anyway, this is turning into a very general discussion about features missing from post 80's music-software.
I think Aodix is really good, much better than most trackers. But, I personally think it would be even better with these additional features.

Scr1pt3r wrote:And regarding the appregiator... I saw arguru sending an image of some plug, I'll let you know which plug is it once I find out.

Great.

And remember: You can do amazing things with even the simplest synthesizer if you can control its parameters in enough detail.

/Daniel

New Aodix 4.0.0.8 Released