T-Racks Vs. Ozone
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- KVRian
- 677 posts since 7 Oct, 2003
if you want all-in-one solution go with ozone. you will know what i mean when you try both.
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
First, Ozone is much more versatile. You can master pretty much anyway you want - multiband compression, exciter, stereo widener. And the routing of modules is very flexible (eq before comp, or after). Then there is the metering and visualization options, which imo blow T-racks or anything else away.
In terms of quality, I've only used the T-tracks demo, but what I did hear wasn't overly impressive - especially for the price.
In terms of quality, I've only used the T-tracks demo, but what I did hear wasn't overly impressive - especially for the price.
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
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- KVRist
- 142 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
I have heard both and all I have to say is that there is no way T-Racks beats Ozone.
Ozone features Multiband compressor, Eq, Mastering Reverb, Exciter, Stereo Widener, Limiter and dithering in one plugin.And it is far more detailed then T-Racks.
T-Racks has a more vintage sound but would you always want it that way?
I have found that there are very few times that I need vintage sound mastering to my tracks and, no, I do not produce dance music but anything from Orchestral to Rock and Funk.
For me Ozone is the one, unless you can afford MD3 and a Powercore...
Ozone features Multiband compressor, Eq, Mastering Reverb, Exciter, Stereo Widener, Limiter and dithering in one plugin.And it is far more detailed then T-Racks.
T-Racks has a more vintage sound but would you always want it that way?
I have found that there are very few times that I need vintage sound mastering to my tracks and, no, I do not produce dance music but anything from Orchestral to Rock and Funk.
For me Ozone is the one, unless you can afford MD3 and a Powercore...
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
Get both! Seriously, Ozone is a very useful tool, as others have said. I'd like to play devils advocate and put in a plug for T-RackS. I use it myself and it's an excellent tool. It definitely has a very coloured sound, which may or may not suit your personal taste. However, T-RackS is quite CPU-friendly and is actually really good as a channel strip. I use it all the time on vocals, guitars, and other recorded instruments. Instant magic sound - T-RackS doesn't have that typical "digital DSP" sound, it's really good at adding flavour and colour to your sound.
Anyway, I use it all the time. You should download the demo and check it out for yourself though. That's really the best way. We could sit here and talk about it all day, but in the end it's all about THE SOUND, and you've got to hear it for yourself.
Forever,
Kim.
Anyway, I use it all the time. You should download the demo and check it out for yourself though. That's really the best way. We could sit here and talk about it all day, but in the end it's all about THE SOUND, and you've got to hear it for yourself.
Forever,
Kim.
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- KVRist
- 326 posts since 6 Sep, 2004 from SC
But if you want to color the sound, why not just get something like Vintage Warmer to go with Ozone and you've got one heck of a pair of apps for about what T-Racks would cost.
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
I like the free Rubytube for adding a bit of vintage colour to certain sounds. Also blockfish + endorphin both have nice saturation stages for this use.
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- KVRist
- 420 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from grand rapids, michigan
i haven't used Ozone, but i remember testing out T-Racks extensively and it doesnn't so much add "vintage" sound or "color" to tracks as it just distorts everything. i can definitely see it being used as a channel strip like Jeez was talking about. it wouldn't be bad in a situation like that, but as a mastering processor... well.. the EQ's high shelf only goes up to like 8khz. there's only 2 settings for Q on the midbands, wide or not quite as wide, and the "tube" compressor sounds like garbage on a full mix.
so yea, ozone and vintage warmer -- you can't go wrong.
so yea, ozone and vintage warmer -- you can't go wrong.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
In my biased opinion I think this. If you want to get Ozone and get all tweaky then you're better off with Waves (except for the price). If you want a rack of virtual analog gear for mastering AND especially also for mixing then T-Racks sounds great.
I know some things about T-Racks that make sense why so many people like its sound. The compressor is modeled after the Fairchild 670 limiter yet has additional features (such as variable ratio compression which is great for smoothing dynamics of tracks). The EQ is modeled after an esoteric EQ from Abbey Road studios. I don't know what the other modules were modeled after but they sound great. We're talking opinions here for course but I am refering to my own as well as a lot of people in the music industry. The multi-band limiter and soft clipper are also great sounding, useful and easy to use pieces.
Now, Ozone isn't as easy to use. It sounds different. It doesn't sound bad or anything. Some of the things you can do with it seemed interesting to me in a tweaky sort of way but for me if I am going to get "surgical" then Waves is ideal for that (restoration for example of "fixing it in the mastering"). However, if you do good clean mixes that don't need tweaky surgery then I think T-Racks is the closest thing to what is used in the hardware analog world... basically racks of tube gear and that should make your mixes sound punchy, warm and consistent amongst the other tracks on your album or compilation.
I'd love to have racks of tube gear in my studio. It gets expensive. $2K per channel or more (a real Fairchild goes for a mere $30,000.). So, from this standpoint, getting things like T-Racks and the UAD card are awesome virtual studio pieces regardless of whatever ELSE you might have for mastering use. You really COULD have both if there was a particular feature of Ozone that you liked. I don't know of any that I'd use that wouldn't be covered by Waves + TRacks though.
I know some things about T-Racks that make sense why so many people like its sound. The compressor is modeled after the Fairchild 670 limiter yet has additional features (such as variable ratio compression which is great for smoothing dynamics of tracks). The EQ is modeled after an esoteric EQ from Abbey Road studios. I don't know what the other modules were modeled after but they sound great. We're talking opinions here for course but I am refering to my own as well as a lot of people in the music industry. The multi-band limiter and soft clipper are also great sounding, useful and easy to use pieces.
Now, Ozone isn't as easy to use. It sounds different. It doesn't sound bad or anything. Some of the things you can do with it seemed interesting to me in a tweaky sort of way but for me if I am going to get "surgical" then Waves is ideal for that (restoration for example of "fixing it in the mastering"). However, if you do good clean mixes that don't need tweaky surgery then I think T-Racks is the closest thing to what is used in the hardware analog world... basically racks of tube gear and that should make your mixes sound punchy, warm and consistent amongst the other tracks on your album or compilation.
I'd love to have racks of tube gear in my studio. It gets expensive. $2K per channel or more (a real Fairchild goes for a mere $30,000.). So, from this standpoint, getting things like T-Racks and the UAD card are awesome virtual studio pieces regardless of whatever ELSE you might have for mastering use. You really COULD have both if there was a particular feature of Ozone that you liked. I don't know of any that I'd use that wouldn't be covered by Waves + TRacks though.
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- KVRAF
- 7316 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
One more here who wasn't impressed with T-racks. Definitely not worth the money imho. Haven't tried Ozone, but if its as good as everyone says it is...
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Definitely not worth the money? It is a suite of 5 plug-ins and each one is the software emulation of a very expensive piece of hardware outboard gear. It's not worth less than $85 for that compressor? That parametric EQ? Multiband limiter? Come on! Haven't you ever drooled over these hardware pieces at the music store?Acolmiztli wrote:One more here who wasn't impressed with T-racks. Definitely not worth the money imho. Haven't tried Ozone, but if its as good as everyone says it is...
As for anyone being impressed with its sound this is of course a matter of opinion. But, I talk to a lot of pro musicians and engineers and I am not kidding but I have not heard of one not liking the sound of TRacks. Maybe you think I am making that up but it is totally true. I know a few picky engineers who wouldn't use software at all but those that do use software tend to like the sound of TRacks.
It's only on a forum like this where I see anyone say anything bad about it. That's strange to me. Sometimes I think people on here are just against any product that costs more than a couple hundred bucks... as if that is "expensive" when anyone who has had a studio filled with hardware gear knows that this isn't expensive at all. I guess it is relative to what you're used to. It is totally worth the money for the right person. If it wasn't it would be a consistent top seller all these years for major stores like Guitar Center.
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
I think that often the price drives the popularity in a perverse/reverse way - lots of people going "wow if it costs that much it must be good" and upon buying something expensive they don't want to lose face by showing any disappointment with their purchase.
For the record I use Ozone and love it. I haven't tried T-Racks. After all why would I need to, my search stopped with Ozone.
Just my 2c
For the record I use Ozone and love it. I haven't tried T-Racks. After all why would I need to, my search stopped with Ozone.
Just my 2c
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
No mystery there, man, it just means they haven't learned how to use the software is all..Squids wrote:It's only on a forum like this where I see anyone say anything bad about it. That's strange to me.
