please fix the sends
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- KVRAF
- 1527 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from desolation row
hey stash98, do a search on PDC in the forum. There are heaps of posts on it. People continue to say that PDC works with racks, but this is only true in certain methods of working. Basically, PDC does not work if you loom plugs like SIR *within* a rack with the VSTi and other non PDC plugs (as per your post four up from here).
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 991 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from USA
ok..thanks..will do..I know SIR will work, I just need to get it set up right. I had it as an insert on an acoustic guitar take I made and it sounds awesome.
but the jamstix controlled BFD VSTi is a different animal. I just want to control where my impulses are panned really.
Also, I read a lot of posts on why people don't need mixers on here. the main issue for me is not the visual, but really just the need for improving sends and busses. those are the most important things for me when i mix down. I like to bus in amples, or panned reverbs, or slapbacks, just things that can deepen a mix and make it really come to life. So that is why I think the sends need to be a bit more user friendly. tracktion is set up like mixer, just going the other way, and I get that. I just still struggle with things like SIR, and bussing in snare samples that add attack..things like that.
but the jamstix controlled BFD VSTi is a different animal. I just want to control where my impulses are panned really.
Also, I read a lot of posts on why people don't need mixers on here. the main issue for me is not the visual, but really just the need for improving sends and busses. those are the most important things for me when i mix down. I like to bus in amples, or panned reverbs, or slapbacks, just things that can deepen a mix and make it really come to life. So that is why I think the sends need to be a bit more user friendly. tracktion is set up like mixer, just going the other way, and I get that. I just still struggle with things like SIR, and bussing in snare samples that add attack..things like that.
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- KVRAF
- 1527 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from desolation row
I understand what you are saying about mixers. I don't feel I need one anymore, although when I first started using tracktion 1 1/2 years ago or whatever, I thought it was a lack.
I don't agree that the current implementations of sends is not user friendly generally- just where PDC plugs are involved it becomes a hassle for me.
I don't agree that the current implementations of sends is not user friendly generally- just where PDC plugs are involved it becomes a hassle for me.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
You put a seperate SIR on each drum track?stash98 wrote:and platinum, i sent an instance of SIR to every drum track. Now the whole drum kit is delayed a beat and out of synch w/ all the instruments.
or do I misunderstand..?
SIR should be in a rack, with 'send' filters on every track that outputs from the drum rack:

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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 991 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from USA
yep. thats how I had it. SIR in a rack and an instance of it put on every drum track. I set only the snare to wet,but they were all still delayed a beat. I also had a volume/pan filter in the rack so I could pan the delay a bit off center.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Well it works for me.
if you have your MIDI parts on a seperate track, that will also need a send filter..
