The Official review of NIN [With_Teeth] thread
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 22 Feb, 2005
There are 90 truly great seconds on the album, right when the disco beat enters on the first track and Trent goes falsetto and call-response yelling. The rest is just a regurgitation of what he's previously done much better. Sadly 
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Valencia, Spain.
For me, With Teeth is worse than I expected when i knew there was going to be a new album, but better than I expected from the reviews I'd read before listening to it.
I find it more direct and rock-oriented, less experimental; but the songs are not that bad, but far from ground breaking.
I find it more direct and rock-oriented, less experimental; but the songs are not that bad, but far from ground breaking.
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- KVRist
- 42 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from Paris
to me this album sounds amazing.
this raw aspect makes it more alive than the previous nin halos (except still, a masterpiece too). and i love the grunge and pop-rock feeling of this album.
all the love in the world, the hand that feeds, only, right where it belongs... both about songwriting and production, reznor is getting one step further. to me it's even better than the downward spiral, which *was* my nin reference.
bravissimo
this raw aspect makes it more alive than the previous nin halos (except still, a masterpiece too). and i love the grunge and pop-rock feeling of this album.
all the love in the world, the hand that feeds, only, right where it belongs... both about songwriting and production, reznor is getting one step further. to me it's even better than the downward spiral, which *was* my nin reference.
bravissimo
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Valencia, Spain.
well, kriminal...there hasn't been many since...just one apart from With Teeth... 
For me, The Downward Spiral is THE NIN album.
For me, The Downward Spiral is THE NIN album.
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
agreed. picked it up for the missus last weekend (she's a fangirl) and had a listen. the first track has the potential to grow on me, should I allow it. nothing else I heard sounded anything more than half-assed demo tracks. the production work was shoddy and some of the "new" directions that Trent is taking are just too contrived. as a person who spent many an agonizingly cliched morose teenage night listening to NIN, I have to say that Trent really needs to either a) do away with the "woe is me" vocal style or b) return to a music style that adequately backs the vocals.electrik noize wrote:With Teeth sounds like a bunch of half finished demos that could have gone somewhere but in the spirit of keeping everything "raw" it came out uninspiring.
I dunno. I've loathed everything since Perfect Drug (Bowie remixes notwithstanding), so I didn't have much expectations for this album. but it seems to me that he's trying desperately to tie in his old style with some new penchant for modern rock, only he's incorporating the least appropriate elements of his electronic background into the rock music he's attempting. and then on top of that, using a painful production method to mimic a "raw" sound, that just ends up sounding minimal and unfinished.
all-in-all, precisely what I expected. which is not much at all.
"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." -Carl Zwanzig
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
Well, PHM is a classic, but i think Broken is the best IMO, but its not an album in the true sense.
I thought there were another 2 after Fragile, maybe just live ones or remixes or something, i kinda lost interest after Fragile, to wafty for me.
I thought there were another 2 after Fragile, maybe just live ones or remixes or something, i kinda lost interest after Fragile, to wafty for me.
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
oh, and Dave Grohl should definitely have cut loose A LOT more.
"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." -Carl Zwanzig
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Valencia, Spain.
You're right, Kriminal, I always tend to count studio albums with original songs as pure albums. anyway, With Teeth is maybe NIN's worst album. Not many to choose from, but I like Pretty Hate Machine better because of its being more spontaneous and having a couple of great tracks; I like Broken better because it's rawer. I like Downward Spiral better because it's full of great songs, it's complex, dark, psychedelic. I like The Fragile better because it's more complete. With Teeth is just average for me.
- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
I think it's the best NIN album released this year! 

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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
I just checked out the video, and I gotta say I kinda like it. Now I didn't find it particularily groundbreaking or anything, but my head was nodding by the end. He just sounds like a rock band now, really.
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- KVRist
- 442 posts since 31 Oct, 2004 from PDX
I bought this for my girlfriend for her birthday the other day, and we have been listening it quite a bit. I'm not a huge fan as I really miss the synth work. Production is decent, I suppose... But its a very dry album for NIN, compared to past work. Definetly could go through life without hearing that one ever again...
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- KVRist
- 386 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Detroit, MI
p.s. If you miss the "electronic" elements, then you should check out Celldweller. They will fill that void: http://www.celldweller.com