Strange to think...

[Panda]

As for the question: i once had a girlfriend who didn't like music. And maybe this is extreme, but it caused our break-up because i got so frustrated she could never be enthousiastic about good music... Ah well, she should have known better

Jesus! I could NEVER go out with some one who didn't like money!! God what would be the point??? (and thats rhetorical)

My long-term (now ex) g/f didnt like the music I liked, but liked a lot of music that I had never heard and got into (spanish, arabic, south american, mexican, etc)

Well she did like 80's disco, but only to dance to. But for the rest she was frreakin intelligent and could make the most amazing observations. And she was a filmfan, which makes up part of the lack of music love.
You don't HAVE to like music to be a cool person (but it sure helps a ton ).

[Panda]

btw my next gf loved music but i hated just about everything she liked- i don't know which situation i prefer...

[herodotus]

What I am suprised at are people who only like classical music.

Now this is a bit different to only liking music which is not "classical" as people more or less grow up in a pop culture.

How lonely must it be to have never experienced the culture that you have grown up in - always an outsider to nearly everyone??

My old english teacher did not like music that had to be amplified, which we found strange, and a little racist to be honest.

"ooh, have you heard the new record by Mozart?" "Yeah, it came out 150 years ago"

sheesh...

What is racist about not liking amplification??

I do believe that most of the patents that are used in amplification systems are owned by white people, so how could not liking it be 'racist'?(unless the guy wasn't white).

If a guy likes only older music it need be nothing more than a matter of taste.

[tetraplan]

What I am suprised at are people who only like classical music.

I'm not, actually. One can easily spend a lifetime discovering different composers, eras, styles, &c.

My old english teacher did not like music that had to be amplified, which we found strange, and a little racist to be honest.

I fail to see what this has to do with racism.
I can think of a couple of reasons to stay away from amplified music.

"ooh, have you heard the new record by Mozart?" "Yeah, it came out 150 years ago"

sheesh...

See above, and there's lots of classical music being composed even today.

Besides, what has age got to do with it? Rock and Roll is half a century old already, Jazz is going on a century, and even techno is nearly 20 years old.

Liking only classical or unamplified music is easier to understand than not liking music at all.

Groet, Erik

[respirator]

I don't like music. I get really annoyed when some music radio is playing or some unwanted music pollutes my surroundings. I listen to music a few times each week, at most. I go to a lot of concerts, though. If I listen to the radio, then it's always an intellectual, all-talk station. I listen to online music sometimes, and though much isn't good - it's still interesting to hear something new and un-filtered by the record business. I honestly think that most commercial available music is a waste of time.

[Bunnyboy]

Couple of points:

1) I somehow doubt he was the type of guy who was into Gorecki, Penendrecki, Glass, Cage, Reich, Riley, LaMonte Young, etc.

2) Racist - yeah, I think so. How much music can you think that involves non-caucasian people that can performed in an auditoruim without amplification?? Cant remember all those composers and operas and symphonies, in pre-1900 done in the great world of slave-trading, oppression, and bigotry (etc, etc)

He dismissed soul, folk, blues, bluegrass, jazz, funk, R&B, deepsong, etc with that sort of attitude.

Also, he dismissed pretty much any music from the last 50-60 years. Not exactly a way of connecting with the kids.

[vurt]

How lonely must it be to have never experienced the culture that you have grown up in - always an outsider to nearly everyone??

hello

[Bunnyboy]

How lonely must it be to have never experienced the culture that you have grown up in - always an outsider to nearly everyone??

hello

I knaa what ya mean, cause I didnt like trance when I was at school and got riducled for listening to suede, pixies, MBV, etc, but you know, not even connecting with youth culture at all?????

[dystonia_ek]

2) Racist - yeah, I think so. How much music can you think that involves non-caucasian people that can performed in an auditoruim without amplification??

I was under the impression that the vast majority of non-western musical traditions developed without either amplification or auditoriums. Amplification is a 20th century phenomenon, and music existed pretty much everywhere on earth for thousands of years without it, so I don't really see your point.

[herodotus]

2) Racist - yeah, I think so. How much music can you think that involves non-caucasian people that can performed in an auditoruim without amplification?? Cant remember all those composers and operas and symphonies, in pre-1900 done in the great world of slave-trading, oppression, and bigotry (etc, etc)

So that means that the thousands of people who only like music with afro-american roots are also racists?

Most people that I know have almost no knowledge whatsoever of classical, baroque, and rennaissance music. Are the names Ockeghem, Dufay, DePrez, Palestrina, Allesandro Scarlatti, or Vincenzo Galilei even remotely as well known as Count Basie, Duke Ellington, Charlie Parker, Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye?

And what does the fact that some people owned slaves 'back then' have to do with anything? Neither Beethoven nor Bach nor Haydn owned any slaves. The latter two were almost slaves themselves: dependent on their patron to such an extent that they couldn't quit their position without their patrons permission.

I don't know this english teacher guy. And for all I know he was a total jerk.

But if so, it wasn't because he liked music "done in the great world of slave-trading, oppression, and bigotry". Any more than someone is a criminal because they like "Cop Killer".

[Bunnyboy]

2) Racist - yeah, I think so. How much music can you think that involves non-caucasian people that can performed in an auditoruim without amplification??

I was under the impression that the vast majority of non-western musical traditions developed without either amplification or auditoriums. Amplification is a 20th century phenomenon, and music existed pretty much everywhere on earth for thousands of years without it, so I don't really see your point.

Very true and, TBH my point is very subjective towards a man who really should've retired from teaching years ago.

Obviously, all music was created using non-amplification. All I am doing is paraphrasing me old English teacher.

Obviously most forms of music dont need amps and mixing desks and mics etc.

But he wouldnt go and see a Jazz band for that reason, or even a folk singer, let along a pop band.

I not too sure if he realised that mics and speakers are used in most modern auditoria

(there was also an English teacher somewhere in my school who told me that she dismissed any novel written after 1900. I am sooooooooo glad she never taught me!)

[oldevil]

in some Muslim nations, and in some Christian cults, music is completely banned, considered to be a tool of the Devil...anything that makes the women shake their hips...

[whyterabbyt]

oldevil considered to be a tool of the Devil...anything that makes the women shake their hips...

Yay! I now officially rename it 'the tool of the Devil'.

[putte]

music? arent the most of us out of that age?

[Bunnyboy]

I seemed to have opened a rather confused (in myself) can of worms here. By accident as well.

I am not saying that listening to any sort of music to the detriment of another is racist, offensive or bigoted in any form. Indeed, that would mean that everybody is guilty by that logic.

However, to dismiss the music of the 20th Century is pretty massive.

I do take back my phrasing (but will leave it in) but not my (very subjective and STILL!! angry) sentiment.

So, herodotus, dystonia_ek, tetraplan I am definately not picking a fight with you guys, and indeed my thoughts and feelings have probably been obfusticated by my lack of articulation.

So I am going to leave it with I thought that his point of view was very ignorant, and racist by association. Way to go to inspire curiosity in kids