You Ony Get a choice of 3 Effects - What Are They?

[Lunch Money]

Ugh. I can't do these kinds of questions. Too many must-haves. Since the thread has moved into actual branded effects:

-Final Mix

-amp sim (so far, still Green Machine Amp II, though with the hardware GDI21 box, I could make do without I guess!)

-Convo Boy

I don't really use modulators much, so I could do without I suppose... if I absolutely had to... though they're certainly nice to have around.

In a way, my selection is cheating, because Final Mix includes multiband comp, EQ, and limiter. Green Machine II includes a variety of effects, too, though as far as I can tell you can't completely bypass the amp sim part so it still wouldn't be absolutely pristine to use, say, the chorus on a vocal part.

To answer the original thread's intent:

-Reverb
-Compression
-EQ

Aren't those the 3 everyone would pick?

[McLilith]

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[VitaminD]

oh oops..

Delay
Multimode Filter
Chorus

mclilith: pfft nope only saw the first one actually but that all makes sense now.. just have to watch out for attracting the dinosaurs with the music/effects

[greendoor]

I think this highlights a glaring need in the VST effects range for a versatile delay plugin. I chose reverb as my third effect largely because the new ArtsAcoustic reverb is so deep that I could spend weeks just experimenting with the options. But if somebody could build an extremely versatile delay unit, the options are even greater. If you include modulation, you could do all these things with a delay:
haas effects
panning effects (behind speakers etc)
phasing
flanging
chorus
dimension
modulated delay (U2 stuff)
reverb effects
echo

Kjaerhus Golden Modulator comes close to doing all this stuff.

[jens]

If you include modulation, you could do all these things with a delay:
haas effects
panning effects (behind speakers etc)
phasing
flanging
chorus
dimension
modulated delay (U2 stuff)
reverb effects
echo

that's why I wrote:

'TrimmetryTapper or RetroDelay'

- check out TT

[scam_artist]

delay
compression
eq

[bill fusion]

ONe thing that should be asked is insert, mixdown or mastering. The list would be alot better then because what you use for changes a channel is not the same in final mix. Also maybe one notch would go to specialty for when stumpped with an idea for a new sound

[greendoor]

Trimmetry Tapper looks pretty cool. I'd like something a lot deeper though. A cross between that and Kjaerhus Golden Modulator could be really interesting. The GUI for a great delay is the challenge - because you need easy host syncing, but the flexibility to enter times to the nearest millisecond - or, for Haas stuff, to 1/10ths of a milliseconds.

[stefancrs]

Now, since people say that we can't bring for instance SynthMaker, please define what an effect is. Singularis. So that it easily can be quantified to being three effects that we would bring.

Also, my mood ins't the best this morning, so make a good definition.

[AVBunyan]

Thanks for all the responses - a lot of good information here.

It appears a lot of the choices center around:
EQ
Reverb
Compression

I guess that would be my choice also.

Later

[shamann]

The GUI for a great delay is the challenge - because you need easy host syncing, but the flexibility to enter times to the nearest millisecond - or, for Haas stuff, to 1/10ths of a milliseconds.

Have you tried Audio Damage's Ronin or Ohm Force's Ohmboyz? Both are very flexible and might be what you're after. Of the two, I think Ronin has the more flexible UI, but Ohmboyz has LFOs on everything. Still, GMO-1 is my favourite modulator, helped a lot by all those LFO shapes and phase offset.

A question for everyone who chose a compressor: How come? Compressors have limited creative appeal, and tend to be used mostly for controlling the recording process. But if you're isolated/stranded, why would you be concerned about controlling anything?

Not criticizing, just curious what folk have in mind - maybe my compressors have been untapped creative resources all these years.

[C00kie]

I downgraded my guitar signal path some years ago from a noisy cumbersome digital multi-fx floorboard, and I need only two basic effects:
* overdrive / distortion (Tech-21 Tri-OD)
* flanger (Boss BF-2)

Oh, with the rock/pop band I do engineering for on their live gigs, I can get by with only a reverb (or two) and a delay.

Has nothing to do with VST's...

[greendoor]

A question for everyone who chose a compressor: How come? Compressors have limited creative appeal, and tend to be used mostly for controlling the recording process. But if you're isolated/stranded, why would you be concerned about controlling anything?

True - compression & eq aren't really effects, more like essential signal processing tools. But if I had a lot of time to kill, I would spend some of it playing with a compressor, because it's one of those tools that sort the men from the boys. Compression is not just about level control though. Compression should be considered as a rhythmnic groove shaper, and possibly as a source of colouration too. The correct use of Attack and Release is an artform, more like a synths ADSR than most people realise. Some time spend compressing indivual drum hits, in the context of a groove, can show how much control this really gives. Definately more to compression than just smashing things.

[Bonteburg]

-multimode filter
-distortion unit*
-eq

Chorus and Delay can be done with clever midi editing anyway, it's fun and clean

Marco





*edit: Shamann is right, why compressors of all effects?

[Lunch Money]

It's all about how you interpret the question.