Not the late great Jazz pianist Bill Evans, but the living Bill Evans who plays Tenor and Soprano. Oddly enough they both played wilth Miles.Oh wait... that other guy... Bill Evans
I'm PISSED!
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
Right I see now it was meant as sarcasm.sure he does Gordon - Kenny G represents American English, John Coltrane represents proper English...
Sorry for being thick.
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- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
I want M-Audio to develop a control surface for the KVR website. 
McLilith
McLilith
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- KVRist
- 97 posts since 28 Nov, 2003
"weather's nice but the beer's piss"
That's funny because when the weather isn't nice over here it's pissing it down!
That's funny because when the weather isn't nice over here it's pissing it down!
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 1 Nov, 2004
So we have the Brits to blame for this language? Although English is probably the most popular language, I have to sit back and laugh at it sometimes. My wife is from Brazil and her native language is Portuguese....similar to us U.S. citizens, their language came from Portugal, and Brazilian Portuguese speaking people can hardly understand the more formal Portuguese when people from Portugal speak it. But when my wife was first learning English she asked me a lot of questions and I have to admit I have a hard time answering them sometimes.
For example, how do you pronounce the word "Bear"? Why isn't it spelled "Bair" if it sounds like "Air" with a "B"? Then why is it pronounced the same as the word "Bare"? And how come "Bare" isn't pronounced the same as "Are" with a "B" added to it? Why is their no long vowel sounds in the word "Are" if it ends with an "E"? Why is "Are" pronounced "R"? How do I know which Bear/Bare that you're talking about if the 2 words are pronounced exactly alike yet have 2 different meanings and 2 different spellings? Why is Bear pronounced Bair, and not pronounced the same as "Beer" if it's really "Ear" with a "B" added to it?
Really though, think of all the examples we have of this in the English language and the mispronounciations with the spellings and then start laughing along with me as well as other people from other countries trying to learn the language. I go visit my wife's family in Brazil, and I get to talk to Brazilian people learning the language and they make fun of these things all the time with me. My favorite has been when some friends asked me, "Hey you want to go with us to the bitch today?" For some reason they have a difficult time prounciating the difference between bitch and beach. I just usually reply, sure I'm always up for a good time relaxing with a good bitch.
The English language is nowhere near being perfect and is rediculous in a lot of aspects, if the Brits want to take ownership of it, I say have at it. At least now, I can blaim someone else for all the goofiness.
Oh yeah, my wife learned a new word just this last week that she heard on the TV. "Hors D'oeuvers". We've been to quite a few fine dining restaurants, and I know she's seen the word before on a menu.....I guess for some reason she probably hadn't put what she saw, and what she heard together before. I had to tell her "appetizers". "Hors D'oeuvers" is most likely a French word us English speaking people butchered in our ignorance.
For example, how do you pronounce the word "Bear"? Why isn't it spelled "Bair" if it sounds like "Air" with a "B"? Then why is it pronounced the same as the word "Bare"? And how come "Bare" isn't pronounced the same as "Are" with a "B" added to it? Why is their no long vowel sounds in the word "Are" if it ends with an "E"? Why is "Are" pronounced "R"? How do I know which Bear/Bare that you're talking about if the 2 words are pronounced exactly alike yet have 2 different meanings and 2 different spellings? Why is Bear pronounced Bair, and not pronounced the same as "Beer" if it's really "Ear" with a "B" added to it?
Really though, think of all the examples we have of this in the English language and the mispronounciations with the spellings and then start laughing along with me as well as other people from other countries trying to learn the language. I go visit my wife's family in Brazil, and I get to talk to Brazilian people learning the language and they make fun of these things all the time with me. My favorite has been when some friends asked me, "Hey you want to go with us to the bitch today?" For some reason they have a difficult time prounciating the difference between bitch and beach. I just usually reply, sure I'm always up for a good time relaxing with a good bitch.
The English language is nowhere near being perfect and is rediculous in a lot of aspects, if the Brits want to take ownership of it, I say have at it. At least now, I can blaim someone else for all the goofiness.
Oh yeah, my wife learned a new word just this last week that she heard on the TV. "Hors D'oeuvers". We've been to quite a few fine dining restaurants, and I know she's seen the word before on a menu.....I guess for some reason she probably hadn't put what she saw, and what she heard together before. I had to tell her "appetizers". "Hors D'oeuvers" is most likely a French word us English speaking people butchered in our ignorance.
Still in search of sonic nirvana....
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- KVRist
- 211 posts since 12 Jul, 2004
What are you talking about ?
Every language has peculiarities, I'm sure Portuguese has, just as French, German et al.
Of course 'hors d'oeuvres' is French - it means appetizers or 'outside the main meal'. If you are in the frame of mind to laugh or find a language whimsical, then I suggest you won't get far. If you take on board its 'funny' or 'strange' absurdities then you have a fighting chance.
Every language has peculiarities, I'm sure Portuguese has, just as French, German et al.
Of course 'hors d'oeuvres' is French - it means appetizers or 'outside the main meal'. If you are in the frame of mind to laugh or find a language whimsical, then I suggest you won't get far. If you take on board its 'funny' or 'strange' absurdities then you have a fighting chance.
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- Hun #3
- 4265 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from A quaint little village just south of Hamburg, Germany
Not really... actually it's just that two letters have been swapped:Rednroll wrote:"Hors D'oeuvers" is most likely a French word us English speaking people butchered in our ignorance.
hors d'oevres......which might be the US/Brit re/er thing hehe
Marco
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- Hun #3
- 4265 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from A quaint little village just south of Hamburg, Germany
I know German has!Wicker Man wrote:
Every language has peculiarities, I'm sure Portuguese has, just as French, German et al.
On another note i really love English, it's quite literally become my second language. It has a beautiful ring to it, I won't even read German translations of English books, life's too short
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- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
Nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, together with English becoming my second language, Dutch is also becoming my second language.Bonteburg wrote:On another note i really love English, it's quite literally become my second language.
V.
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 1 Nov, 2004
Well, I'm currently learning Portuguese, and don't know very much, but from the Portuguese speaking people I've talked too, they don't have any words that are spelled differently and pronounced the same.
And for the record, history tells us it was the uneducated English that migrated to the U.S first. It was the upper class English that could afford formal education. So that's where our U.S. English roots came from, so I would be willing to bet that if anyone was to take claim to perfecting the language it wouldn't be the U.S. speaking citizens. Now just think if some of our black ghetto speaking folks got pissed off enough to rebel and migrate to another country. That country would have a bunch of new English words developing now wouldn't it and I would be willing to further bet over time they would consider their pronounciations and interpretations are the better way?
"It's auite, butz wat up wit dat?"
And for the record, history tells us it was the uneducated English that migrated to the U.S first. It was the upper class English that could afford formal education. So that's where our U.S. English roots came from, so I would be willing to bet that if anyone was to take claim to perfecting the language it wouldn't be the U.S. speaking citizens. Now just think if some of our black ghetto speaking folks got pissed off enough to rebel and migrate to another country. That country would have a bunch of new English words developing now wouldn't it and I would be willing to further bet over time they would consider their pronounciations and interpretations are the better way?
"It's auite, butz wat up wit dat?"
Still in search of sonic nirvana....
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- KVRist
- 211 posts since 12 Jul, 2004
Now you're being silly.
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- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
Yeah,right. This thread contained absolutely no silliness before that comment.
McLilith
McLilith
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- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from The only civilized county in Texas
That's the biggest soprano saxophone I've ever seen.Sickle666 wrote:McLilith wrote: In fact, I can't even think of another Soprano Saxophone person period.
But then they always say that the saxophone is a phallic instrument, so I guess size counts.
V.
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- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
Sickle told me, every instrument is a phallic instrument... if you know how to use it properly!TennesseeVic wrote:But then they always say that the saxophone is a phallic instrument, so I guess size counts.
McLilith
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I believe Sickle was actually quoting some groupie he met...
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- KVRist
- 252 posts since 28 Jan, 2005
Close, but I'm looking for the www.fme-fme.com siteSascha Franck wrote:Wouldn't you like a dedicated controller for that, sangha?
Such as those at www.fu-fme.com for instance?
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