Is it just me or.....(impulse reverbs)

[kritikon]

kritikon - wrong. I just downloaded that from PCM 90 and they are 16 bit and sound is not so special. That from PCM 91 is much more better. Check it by yourself.

Halls from PCM 90 are 16-bit and from PCM91 are 24.bit...

Much better sound with that PCM 91

That's what I just said - I went back and checked at Noisevault - there are still 2 sets of PCM91 impulses - presumably the 1st batch are the crap ones at 16bit (and from what I remember of the blurb on the site from way back, they were even decoded from MP3s - which means avoid like the plague...) but the 2nd set (a smaller batch unfortunately) are the 24bit ones - nicely recorded too. They're my go-to impulses almost every time.

And I wholeheartedly recommend you try the Eventide impulses if you haven't already - nice indeed. There's a big batch from the 4500 - loads of rooms and some amazing canyons and weirder reverbs.

In fact, when my mortgage is paid off in a few years, I think I'll go back to some h/w...an Eventide or a PCM (it'll probably be up to a PCM93 by then )
Convolution's nice, but I still prefer the tweakability of the real thing - especially now SX is more compatible with h/w that's got digital in/outs.

[greendoor]

I have used SIR and Voxengo with impulses for years now - and they are amazing, but limited. Until very recently, I would have totally agreed that impulses were far better than any native reverb. But this seemed odd, because most of the impulses I love come from algorithmn reverb - I love the fake stuff. It was similar to analog synthesis - until recently you needed a sample player to sound like analog. Now, there are great VSTi that sound analog, and have far greater modulation capabilities than sample playback. Now - ArtsAcoustic have made a VST reverb that SOUNDs as good as hardware reverb. You need to try the demo to believe this for yourself. You also need to spend some time with the demo, because it took me a little while to realise just how powerful this is. Don't whack everything on Max, like I did, and think that you have heard it. This can be "too dense" or "too bright" if you want it to be, so experiment and I think you will find the sounds you love. OK - you won't be able to 100% clone all your impulses - nothing can do that. But, you should find that you can create an appropriate reverb for any mix, with ease, and you can shape this so the reverb tail "grooves" in rythmn ways. Zero latency, low CPU use. It's good.

[neil wilkes]

From what I remember, the Monster PCM91 impulses were 16bit? I remember there was a huge selection of PCM91 impulses that sounded awful - low bit rate, and probably badly recorded and normalised. The 24bit ones however are nicely recorded. Personally I won't use 16bit impulses of reverbs any more...to my ears the tails are alot smoother at 24bit.

The monster ones were actually from MP3 originally.
The PCM90 is far, far better.
I have a huge list of IR - drop an email for a list & I can upload as necessary

[Teksonik]

I'm loving Orion Platinum's Impulse Response Processor. Kicks serious bootay.

[sidrat]

waves ir1 - yeah, i know it's wave$... but it's the best sounding convolution verb i've tried

[neil wilkes]

Try Wizoo's W2 or better still W5.
You get a form of IR called HDIR as well as AIR, plus you can also import any IR you already have.
ER & Tails can be interchanged as you see fit - you can have the ER from one IR, and tails from another.
Full editing - much more control than Waves.

Well worth a look. Sounds bloody awesome too.

[sinkmusic]

I have been using Sir for a while, and i heard about Revolverb, a freeware 0-latency convolution reverb.
It has no options, you just set dry/wt, load your impulse and let's go, but it seemed to me that it was not sounding as nice as Sir...
Was it just me and my ears playing a trick, or can it be right ?
Is revolverb crappy-sounding ?
http://revolverb.hostrocket.com/

[martian]

anyone else find, that most noisevault lexi IRs have a high freq ring at the end of the tails? i get same thing in SIR and PS. takes a while to hear but cant stop once you do. still sound better than natives i've heard though.

[neil wilkes]

Some definitely seem to have this.
Seems to be an artifact from the modulation of the lexicon units.
There are some very clean ones - the Laurent 960 impulses, the PCM 90 impulses etc.
Basically, the higher the resolution recorded at the better they will be - and the longer the sweeptone used the better too.

[sonicfire]

very nice.......mhh......but the latency....

edit: WHOOPS its changeable

[Sascha Franck]

Now - ArtsAcoustic have made a VST reverb that SOUNDs as good as hardware reverb. You need to try the demo to believe this for yourself. You also need to spend some time with the demo, because it took me a little while to realise just how powerful this is. Don't whack everything on Max, like I did, and think that you have heard it. This can be "too dense" or "too bright" if you want it to be, so experiment and I think you will find the sounds you love. OK - you won't be able to 100% clone all your impulses - nothing can do that. But, you should find that you can create an appropriate reverb for any mix, with ease, and you can shape this so the reverb tail "grooves" in rythmn ways. Zero latency, low CPU use. It's good.

I'd have to agree with that praise.
The AA reverb is really amazing, and even if I haven't even explored all the functionality yet, I wouldn't want to miss it anymore.
Obviously it won't do all the things impulses might do for you, but I'm sure there's a proper setting for almost each reverberation purpose.
And, again as greendoor said, no need to care about latency, plus, CPU useage is really mediocre (no, I should say "excellent", for what it does).
Let alone you wouldn't have to care about backing up impulse response samples should you move to another machine or something like that.

[Hink]

what I like about pristine is that I was able to make a drum room impulse that actually sounded like a room...subtle reverb...I'll have to look at this AA reverb (though AA too me means Adobe Audition)...my biggest complaint with many reverbs is that when used sparingly they lose character, but when used at it's unity (I know not exactly the right term, but should make my point) you end up swimming in reverb. Let's face it, reverb could be considered one of the most over applied effects...

btw if you want the impulse, here is a diagram of the room I made. FWIW yes I know the mics are out of phase, but I seemed to get better results this way...



http://www.eminantdomain.com/studio/Imp ... stereo.wav

[neil wilkes]

Is this made with Voxengo's Impulse Modeller?
And would it be too much to ask for a copy of this please (not the app - already bought that)

[Hink]

Is this made with Voxengo's Impulse Modeller?
And would it be too much to ask for a copy of this please (not the app - already bought that)

yes it was....instead of posting it on my site I'll send it to you...drop me an email...

edit I see your email....I'll send it

[Hink]

oops you'll to email me so I can put an attachment on...