Is there any way to do Fade ins/Outs with MIDI on Cubase?
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- KVRer
- 24 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Chicago
Sorry guys, as you can see i'm very new to cubase...but this seems like the only place for legit answers...but anyway, yeah i have a MIDI riff that i'm trying to fade into my track slowly and gradually get softer to louder...any help please?? 
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 24 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Chicago
i found that its really easy to do with audio by clicking the top left corner of the bar and just draggin it for a fade out, but you cant do that with MIDI....
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- KVRist
- 252 posts since 28 Jan, 2005
1) The top left "fade handle" is for fade-*INS*. The top right "fade handle" is for fade-outsStephenDaniel wrote:i found that its really easy to do with audio by clicking the top left corner of the bar and just draggin it for a fade out, but you cant do that with MIDI....
2) You can use automation to record MIDI, but using Cubase's fade-in/out is easier
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- KVRAF
- 1703 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark
I really dont think it's enough just say Cubase if you want help.
There is many cubase versions !!
If you were asking like this in the steinberg forum you must have been beaten out of there.....
There is many cubase versions !!
If you were asking like this in the steinberg forum you must have been beaten out of there.....
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 24 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Chicago
Cubase SX...sorry
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 24 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Chicago
sangha wrote:
1) The top left "fade handle" is for fade-*INS*. The top right "fade handle" is for fade-outs
2) You can use automation to record MIDI, but using Cubase's fade-in/out is easier
There arent any fade handles when you use MIDI...only Audio.
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- KVRist
- 252 posts since 28 Jan, 2005
You're right! I meant that he should adjust the fade handles that are in the audio track that's recording the audio output of the MIDI instrument.StephenDaniel wrote:sangha wrote:
1) The top left "fade handle" is for fade-*INS*. The top right "fade handle" is for fade-outs
2) You can use automation to record MIDI, but using Cubase's fade-in/out is easier
There arent any fade handles when you use MIDI...only Audio.
P2 3.2GHz, XP Pro, M-Audio FW-1814, Cubase SX3
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- KVRist
- 340 posts since 1 Jan, 2004 from Philly

Use the Key Editor (midi editor)
Use the Line tool to produce a gentle fade up of the note velocities from the begining to the end of the part.
De-select the Line tool and exit the editor.
Your midi be fading in now.

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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 1 Sep, 2004
EDIT: uuups. that was nonsense. I didn't read your post right.
A solution was to include a MIDI enabled master effect to fade outa and ina that entire music with a controller.
But I dunno, whether or what effect this actually can do...
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- KVRist
- 454 posts since 2 May, 2004 from somewhere behind my eyes
Or if you have a sound where changing the velocity changes the character(filter cutoff set to vel etc.)draw in a controller pattern as shown above then change it to controller no.7 which is the "old school" master volume in midi instruments.Col.G wrote:
Use the Key Editor (midi editor)
Use the Line tool to produce a gentle fade up of the note velocities from the begining to the end of the part.
De-select the Line tool and exit the editor.
Your midi be fading in now.
Or just use track automation (choose show automation by right clicking on channel,volume is shown by default then draw the curve required) or enable write automation and move the mixer fader by hand in realtime then enable read to hear it played back.Now edit as required.
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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 1 Sep, 2004
That's really a nice idea, BUT fading the volume should work also. Use controller #007 (channel volume) then.Col.G wrote: Use the Key Editor (midi editor)
Use the Line tool to produce a gentle fade up of the note velocities from the begining to the end of the part.
De-select the Line tool and exit the editor.
Your midi be fading in now.
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- KVRist
- 157 posts since 15 May, 2005
In SX to get midi fades in and out
1. Use volume automation in the key editor controller lane. (if the Midi device handles it)
2. Use the expression controller in the key editor controller lane.(if the Midi device handles it)
3. If driving VSTi's then use a volume fade on the audio channel of the VSTi automation lane.
4. Use velocity fades on the Midi data (key editor, logical editor )
5. Use volume automation on the automation lane of the Midi track.(if the Midi device handles it)
6. Use expresion controller automation on the automation lanes for the Midi track.(if the Midi device handles it)
7. Record the results of the midi data as audio and apply fades as automation, fade handles on audio events, volume events in audio parts, or as an offlne process.
8. If driving a VSTi, use the automation of the volume which may not be the same as using the VSTi channel volume.
1. Use volume automation in the key editor controller lane. (if the Midi device handles it)
2. Use the expression controller in the key editor controller lane.(if the Midi device handles it)
3. If driving VSTi's then use a volume fade on the audio channel of the VSTi automation lane.
4. Use velocity fades on the Midi data (key editor, logical editor )
5. Use volume automation on the automation lane of the Midi track.(if the Midi device handles it)
6. Use expresion controller automation on the automation lanes for the Midi track.(if the Midi device handles it)
7. Record the results of the midi data as audio and apply fades as automation, fade handles on audio events, volume events in audio parts, or as an offlne process.
8. If driving a VSTi, use the automation of the volume which may not be the same as using the VSTi channel volume.
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- KVRian
- 1023 posts since 8 Apr, 2003 from Östersund
The funny thing is that Magix Music Maker does have fade handles on MIDI Parts while Cubase SX doesn't. Heh, guess you need something advanced like MMM for such features, eh? 
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- KVRian
- 809 posts since 25 Apr, 2004 from Windsor, Ontario
the answer is yes. you just do it a different way. i think that's only to separate the ideas of audio vs. MIDI.