Looking for drums... DFH Superior vs. Stylus RMX vs. BFD

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I mostly do punk / metal type stuff and I want better sounding drums. I like the sound of DFH but 35 gigs is a lot of HD space and I only have one gig of RAM. I don't think BFD is suited to the type of music that I do but I've heard lots of good things about it so I'll list it here anyway. I like the way Stylus RMX works and the hip hop type samples are cool but I'm not sure if it has good acoustic drums.

Which one of these three would you recommend?

BTW I use Tracktion so are there any known compatibility issues with these plugs?
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have you considered stormdrum? i think the best way to make the decision is listening to the demos available. for metal, i wouldnt recommened RMX, and i dont personally like the sound of BFD. i would go with stormdrum or dfh superior.

just my two cents.

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jtxx000 wrote:I mostly do punk / metal type stuff and I want better sounding drums. I like the sound of DFH but 35 gigs is a lot of HD space and I only have one gig of RAM. I don't think BFD is suited to the type of music that I do but I've heard lots of good things about it so I'll list it here anyway. I like the way Stylus RMX works and the hip hop type samples are cool but I'm not sure if it has good acoustic drums.

Which one of these three would you recommend?

BTW I use Tracktion so are there any known compatibility issues with these plugs?
I have RMX. You won't find a lot of good acoustic drums pre-kitted for use right out of the box. I haven't been through every sound in the RMX library though (and there are a lot), so YMMV. Building a kit from individual sounds is pretty easy minus the auditioning time that will take. RMX is deep and loaded with great features.

As I mentioned in another thread on Jamstix, I looked at DFH2 last night and was impressed with its acoustic drums. Very good quality stuff at a very good price.
As for disk space, I added a Maxtor 120 Gb external USB drive to house sample libraries. It was an inexpensive way to save my internal SATA for my primary DAW work. I also have 1 Gb RAM and haven't had a major problem yet...although I may go to 2 Gb RAM or more in the near future.

I'm still pondering whether it's more effective for me to build RMX acoustic kits (if possible - remains to be seen) or just bag it and add in DFH2 or BFD.

Just my 0.02 US :D
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I don't own it, but the demos of DKFH Custom and Vintage are the best I ever heard.
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jtxx000 wrote:I mostly do punk / metal type stuff and I want better sounding drums. I like the sound of DFH but 35 gigs is a lot of HD space and I only have one gig of RAM. I don't think BFD is suited to the type of music that I do but I've heard lots of good things about it so I'll list it here anyway. I like the way Stylus RMX works and the hip hop type samples are cool but I'm not sure if it has good acoustic drums.
I you do punk/metal and you like the way Stylus RMX works, be sure to check out Stylus RMX equipped with the Burning Grooves XPander. That way you'll get plenty of high-voltage acoustic drum grooves within RMX.

- Glenn

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Get RMX!! as ppl say its versitle and very expandable

BFD if you need real drums

DFH has a good sound but has a nasty UI (IMO)

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GlennO wrote:
jtxx000 wrote:I mostly do punk / metal type stuff and I want better sounding drums. I like the sound of DFH but 35 gigs is a lot of HD space and I only have one gig of RAM. I don't think BFD is suited to the type of music that I do but I've heard lots of good things about it so I'll list it here anyway. I like the way Stylus RMX works and the hip hop type samples are cool but I'm not sure if it has good acoustic drums.
I you do punk/metal and you like the way Stylus RMX works, be sure to check out Stylus RMX equipped with the Burning Grooves XPander. That way you'll get plenty of high-voltage acoustic drum grooves within RMX.

- Glenn
Well here's an example of one of the demos that I like from DFH Superior. The drums really slice through the mix there, especially the kick. I didn't hear anything like that in the BackBeat demos. I like this demo for stylus RMX. IMO BFD sounds good for old rock and the like but the kicks and snares aren't well suited for modern type music.
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I'm a very happy DFHS user. Love the sound :love: and the UI as well! Perhaps it's not the sexiest of GUIs, but well planned and efficient to work with I think.

I definitely recommend DFHS, but can't compare it to the other ones.

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BFD is great for modern punk/metal (ask Steve Duda), you simply need to mix it like a modern engineer.. heavy compression on individual drums, go easy on the room mics - might even want to use a fake reverb instead of BFD's natural room sound.
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Angus_FX wrote:BFD is great for modern punk/metal (ask Steve Duda), you simply need to mix it like a modern engineer.. heavy compression on individual drums, go easy on the room mics - might even want to use a fake reverb instead of BFD's natural room sound.
Do you have an example? Also I've heard of some compatibility issues with Tracktion, are they still there?
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A couple from our users...

http://www.flametal.com/clips/brujamaster3.mp3

http://www.cncrocks.com/music.html

I'm not aware of any compatibility problems with Tracktion currently.
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BFD is great for *any* type of music if you mix and processes it right. It would be my choice.

One of my favorite things about BFD is that the drum samples don't sound already processed, which gives you a lot of flexibility when you want to shape and sculpt your drums.
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Angus_FX wrote:A couple from our users...

http://www.flametal.com/clips/brujamaster3.mp3

http://www.cncrocks.com/music.html

I'm not aware of any compatibility problems with Tracktion currently.
Ok, maybe BFD can do punk / metal drums :D So would I run into any problems with only having 1 gig of RAM?
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jtxx000 wrote:Ok, maybe BFD can do punk / metal drums :D So would I run into any problems with only having 1 gig of RAM?
I'm using BFD here on my Athlon 2400 with 512MB of RAM, and it's working good (although I could use a little extra). I'm sure with 1 gig you should be fine :)
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Do you use an external hard drive?
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