Miroslav?

[Tritonman1]

I saw a demo video on it today..the guy played a few seconds worth of it and i was amazed at the sound quality of this plugin. The multiple layers is what did me in on this..he played a quick sample of the layers and added an Oboe iirc and i swear it sounded exactly like the "main theme" of LOTR.

Im pretty sure I will be one of the people getting this when it does come out..hopefully we can get another group buy in..

[Squids]

Yeah, that guy is cool.

Tritonman1 should check out Sonik Synth 2 if he liketh Tritons.

[The O'Neil Twins]

Yeah, that guy is cool.

Yeah.....I bet Squids wishes he could play like that...

[nexussynth]

I saw a demo video on it today..the guy played a few seconds worth of it and i was amazed at the sound quality of this plugin. The multiple layers is what did me in on this..he played a quick sample of the layers and added an Oboe iirc and i swear it sounded exactly like the "main theme" of LOTR.

Im pretty sure I will be one of the people getting this when it does come out..hopefully we can get another group buy in..

Mentioning LOTR, it would be VERY nice for Philharmonik to have extended brass instruments of the type used in Shore's score, like Wagner Tuben (he used like 9 of them) or tenor tuba.

Also contrabass trombone and bass trumpet. A hecklephone would be very nice but I prefer the sound of the bass oboe (LOTR used a bass oboe).

Many of these 'Wagnerian" insturments have been very popular with film composers. Danny Elfman uses them.

Jerry Goldsmith used instruments such as these in his blockbuster scores for Star Trek, etc.

The Wagner Tuben were first used in modern scoring by Michel LeGrande for his score for "Ice Station Zebra" and imediately other film music composers were wanting to get "that sound". They are like uncoiled french horns with a wider bore and short flare to the bell and can sound really nasty at fff and moody at mp. They sound great playing chords, too. EWQLSO Platinum has them, but alas not GOLD or Silver.

They play the 'bad guy' themes in Wagner's "Ring" operas, where they are usually in 3s, with two Bb in unison and 1 F instrument an octave below that.

Sure you can do a whole lot with standard orchestral brass and woods but these instruments contribute alot to the modern film score sound, if they are sampled well.

Supposedly, Garritan is going to offer most of these instruments I mentioned, in GPO Advanced. I would like to see a couple in Philharmonik, at least a tenor tuba or two.

This would also help band music arrangements.

Gary tells me the Wagner Tuben he sampled were available through Seattle Opera. They are somewhat rare beasts and fr. horn players hate to play them.

Well, I'll stay quiet about those instruments until the new MV comes out! (I missed those instruments in MV the first time around)

[Squids]

Yeah, that guy is cool.

Yeah.....I bet Squids wishes he could play like that...

[Squids]

No Wagner Tubens in Philharmonik I don't think. But, possibly more orchestral sounds in the future for sure. I'll have to research those you mentioned to see if they are either in the archives we have or if we have to go sample it. I am up for sampling pretty much every cool sound that is usable in film scoring to various music production styles that I like. I too look forward to using these tools as a composer myself. That's the added motivation for me! That's what I love about this job in fact. We spend time making tools that I myself would like to use. It seems to make the products better than another who is just looking to have specs look good on paper or just trying to beat out the next one and take the market for themselves. Honestly, we're just concentrating on making a great usable product. Success will follow if people receive the way that it was intended and don't let other product's rediculous GB size or silly lowball prices affect their judgement on what is good valuable usable material.

[nexussynth]

No Wagner Tubens in Philharmonik I don't think. But, possibly more orchestral sounds in the future for sure. I'll have to research those you mentioned to see if they are either in the archives we have or if we have to go sample it. I am up for sampling pretty much every cool sound that is usable in film scoring to various music production styles that I like. I too look forward to using these tools as a composer myself. That's the added motivation for me! That's what I love about this job in fact. We spend time making tools that I myself would like to use. It seems to make the products better than another who is just looking to have specs look good on paper or just trying to beat out the next one and take the market for themselves. Honestly, we're just concentrating on making a great usable product. Success will follow if people receive the way that it was intended and don't let other product's rediculous GB size or silly lowball prices affect their judgement on what is good valuable usable material.

Nice to hear that Philharmonik will be an expanding library. The tenor tuba or tenor euphonium have a similar range and could cover. Miroslav might have sampled one of those.

Since film scoring is brass intensive, composers were always looking for something to fill out their sections.

Since the new version of the library sounds so nice I would like see those added eventually.

The BIG libraries have some bloat to be sure, thats why its so nice the MV doesn't need all that.

The release trails and things of other libraries practically double their footprint and require DFD disk streaming. They sound nice but my ears say that the wonderful reverb of the CSR coupled with the great sound Miroslav got, will make release trails uneeded.

[Squids]

Remember too that Miroslav Philharmonik isn't just a library but a virtual instrument and one of the only ones open to customization to the sounds. IK is heavily involved with Philharmonik as much as SR so you can imagine that there will be updates enhancing its capabilities over time as well. In fact, there is even one spec that wasn't announced that may make it into the final and I know some people will like it. I don't want to say until I see it is for sure in the final and then I will spill the beans (when we're closer to release). We're not that far away. Late June or early July is my guess at this point.

Anyway, all of the IK/SR sound workstations have the potential to be expanded or updated over time. This is a system of added value as well as one that grows with your needs too or fillng popular requests. That's why if I see certain instruments being asked for and even a good explanation of how they are used then it it is helpful toward us getting those things for the future for you and everyone else who might appreciate it. I like to hear requests like that. You've been a good contributor on these threads.

[nexussynth]

Remember too that Miroslav Philharmonik isn't just a library but a virtual instrument and one of the only ones open to customization to the sounds. IK is heavily involved with Philharmonik as much as SR so you can imagine that there will be updates enhancing its capabilities over time as well. In fact, there is even one spec that wasn't announced that may make it into the final and I know some people will like it. I don't want to say until I see it is for sure in the final and then I will spill the beans (when we're closer to release). We're not that far away. Late June or early July is my guess at this point.

Anyway, all of the IK/SR sound workstations have the potential to be expanded or updated over time. This is a system of added value as well as one that grows with your needs too or fillng popular requests. That's why if I see certain instruments being asked for and even a good explanation of how they are used then it it is helpful toward us getting those things for the future for you and everyone else who might appreciate it. I like to hear requests like that. You've been a good contributor on these threads.

Thanks squids.

I know many people are interested in film music and would like to achieve 'that sound' but don't know much about the actual orchestration of those popular scores.

If I can contribute to making Philharmonik even better, I'm here.

[Tritonman1]

Tritonman1 should check out Sonik Synth 2 if he liketh Tritons.

As a matter of fact Im in on the Sampletank/Synth bundle..

Unfortunately I just sold my 88 Key Triton Studio and went all midi which is why the software bundle is a godsend for me.

[zai]

I know that Philharmonik comes with about 7GB of sample materials. Right now "somebody" is having a sale and I'm able to upgrade my QLSO Gold to QLSO Platium for a very good price (I hope I did my calculation right). But I can only afford to save up for "one" symphonic library...should I go Philharmonik (for a different sound) or Platium (a bigger sample library...68GB of it!)

Advice needed...currently leaning toward Philharmonik...simply because IK looks like it's going to be a power player in the sampling world!

Zai

[Kim Lajoie]

If you've already got QLSO Gold, I'd personally look at getting Philharmonik to compliment it. That way you'll have two different orchestral libraries, and you'll be able to get more creative in blending them. You get more choice, and more flexibility that way. Plus of course you get that beautiful Miroslav sound!

Forever,




Kim.

[Frunobulax]

My advice is to get both Miroslav and Platinum. I hear you can make thousands of dollars a week at home these days, so now there is no excuse not to buy everything!

For those that didn't see the soon-to-be-deleted threads, KVR has been spammed today with advertisements for a very special employment opportunity.

[Frunobulax]

Seriously, one thing you might look closely at is whether your system is stout enough to handle Platinum in all its 24 bit glory. I don't have it, but i have heard others mention that this can be an issue.

[Squids]

Variety is the spice of life.