KVR Audio

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Sat May 28, 2005 5:28 pm

I want to start playing with recording music to photography and eventually digital video. What is a good setup for the beginner. Moviemaker would be cool, but apparently I need XP SP2 for that and I am not quite willing to do that. Note that on the audio side, my main hosts are Cubase SL2 (soon SL3) and Adobe Audition.

Thanks

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progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:31 pm

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:54 am

Since you have Adobe Audition, you might want to consider either Premiere or After Effects. AE might be overkill, but it's a very powerful program that in the right hands can lead to paying gigs.

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:03 am

I think AE isn't for the beginner. In that case, I'd suggest Premiere plus someone to guide you through it.

Then, when you get the hang of it, set up a small project in Premiere and import that into After Effects, it'll give you an idea how things work.

Groet, Erik

lawapa · Post by **lawapa** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:13 am

When I moved to video my jump was to Vegas 5. While Adobe sets the standard Vegas video is no light weight. And mine is running under sp1. Now if money's not an object both the Premiere and after effects can do what you want. So that's a simple choice. My move was not only the software but a new DAW for video fully configured and ready to roll. I've never used any adobe software So my hat's in the ring but I can't compare.

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:30 am

vegas is much better than premiere at integrating audio & video. vegas began as an audio apop and has some strong features. while the audio side has been neglected by sony lately, it is still very good.

premiere - to me - is more like a 100% video app that has a few added things "for the soundtrack". audio is a low-ranked feature.

my personal observations only.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:56 am

Cabinfever wrote:vegas is much better than premiere at integrating audio & video. vegas began as an audio apop and has some strong features. while the audio side has been neglected by sony lately, it is still very good.

premiere - to me - is more like a 100% video app that has a few added things "for the soundtrack". audio is a low-ranked feature.

my personal observations only.

I think Audition and Premeire may integrate now. I'll have to double check.

Har · Post by **Har** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:12 am

I've always been a big fan of Premiere myself, though have been giving some thought to checking out Vegas as well at some point.

I've actually been getting back into the visual end of the spectrum myself recently, having re-started my old love affair with doing animation using Bryce and getting the newest version from DAZ3D (yeah, I know most "real" 3D folks tend to look at Bryce as a toy, but what the hell, I enjoy it

).
I also just picked up TrueSpace 5.2 for 3D modeling and animation as well, which is fun.

The last time I did something like this some years ago, my poor wife became a "Bryce widow" for months while I painstakingly recreated scenes from remembered childhood dreams and nightmares and then started putting the results to music.

Looks like it's starting up again...more nightmares, more to work with!

CC4 · Post by **CC4** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:15 am

If you want to dabble in the territory of what the professionals use, then you might want to check out Avid Free DV. It's a free version of their Xpress DV package that runs for $495, and should let you do the basics. ...I use Avid Composer and Xpress myself at werk.

You might also like to check out DDClip Free. It's rather interesting.

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:49 am

Thanks for the comments all. Both Premiere and AE seem to integrate with Audition, but they are not cheap

. AE is cheaper (at least the standard edition is). I have to give this a think. Definitely want to start combining the visual and the audio side. Maybe I will wait a bit for now. Would be nice to develop collages of photographs and video set to music, say in Joshua Tree

.

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:30 pm

Vegas movie studio is good to get started, and there is an upgrade path to the full Vegas for when your needs grow:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/Produc ... sp?PID=932
Nothing beats Vegas for audio work in an NLE.

But I would strongly suggest to try the Mainconcept Eve demo, it's cheap on price, but you might never need to get anything more powerfull.http://www.mainconcept.com/evev2.shtml. A really intuitive and powerfull little kit, which the price doesn't really reflect.

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:12 pm

if you have cubase already - assuming you'll sync audio to video and not vice-versa, why not check something simple like pinnacle's studio first? it's cheap and simply works.

can't speak for premiere - last I worked with it was version 5.5.

later I enjoyed working with aist's moviepack extreme, but it seems I'll have to look elsewhere now.

CC4 · Post by **CC4** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:14 pm

progfusion74 wrote:Definitely want to start combining the visual and the audio side.

Premiere crashes a lot. A must have for wedding videographers.

After Effects is very cool for effects and can be integrated into a lot of the better editors, some of which are cheaper than Premiere.

You might want to investigate what visuals you want to incorporate with the audio. In terms of just photographs, some cheap and free VJ tools will do much more amazing things when synced up to audio than just your standard video editor.

mauseoleum · Post by **mauseoleum** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:36 pm

http://www.videomaker.com/scripts/article.cfm?id=9142

... baby, come back ...

now the aist guys seem to be concetrating on entry-level consumer apps ...

shame on them.

birrbits · Post by **birrbits** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:54 pm

Ulead MediaStudio Pro packs about the same bunch as Premier for alot less dollars.
http://www.ulead.com/msp/runme.htm

Just dont confuse it with thier cheesy home-movie maker VideoStudio

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