Is there any UNISON plugin + best voice fatteners?!

[Dance123]

Hi,

First of all, are there any unison plugins out there? Unison is an effect where you have the original signal and the sound is made fatter by adding many copies of that sound being detuned (slightly pitched up or down) around the original frequency. It's different from chorus as it uses pitch shifting and not modulated delay I believe. That way unison gives a more "clean" fatter sound without any wobbling that you have with a classic chorus effect.

Normally you can determine the amount of voices being added (more = more CPU load, am I right?), where up to 7 or 9 (or more?) would be cool + determine how much the voices should be detuned, which is called stereo spread I believe.

Are there any plugins like that?!

Also, I have been told that in studio's they layer multiple takes in order to get the voice fatter. Can you also achieve this with a "voice fattener" plugin. Which do you recommend?!

Thanks!

[stefancrs]

First question: you could try using mda detune, but I'd recommend using synths with a unison mode in them instead.

Second question: layer multiple takes

[Kraku]

Actually chorus IS a modulated delay. You have to modulate the pitch of the signal slightly to continuously sweep back and forth the signal's current play position to get the chorus effect. So in a way you could say it's kind of a "unison" effect.

If you want a fat & full vocal sound with loads of bass, for example, then try this trick:

- Don't cut the low frequencies of the vocal, but put it straight through a good limiter plugin, which has tweakable release parameter (GPP-1 has this). Set this release parameter to as small a value as possible (5ms is good). Now set the threshold to something like -10dB to -15dB or so. This should "rip" the bass frequencies of the vocal and introduce you very nice and warm distortion, which doesn't actually sound like distortion at all and sounds very sweet on the vocals. Be careful not to over do that threshold...

- Another trick is to do the same as above, but add a stereo chorus effect before the limiter. This widens the vocal nicely and squashes the chorus's delay lines together so, that the resulting effect doesn't actually sound like a chorus anymore. This also works with lower release values (or a normal compressor), but then you'd better cut the lowest frequencies of the vocals before running the signal through the chorus...


Oh, and the plugins I use to achieve this effect are: Classic Chorus & GPP-1.

[aMUSEd]

What about effects that multiply the number of voices like Waves Doubler, Akai Decabuddy or Elevayta Choir Boy?

http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=117

the Waves one does detune too.

There's also Kiesel Software Unison 1 but it's not out yet:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/872.html

[Kim Lajoie]

There's a free BetaBugs Unison effect in the works... Shh don't tell anyone!

Forever,




Kim.

[kadar]

talking about all this.......do you guys know any commercial sounding chorus plugins...i like bass chorus..but I need more control over it

[useruseruser]

Hi,

First of all, are there any unison plugins out there? Unison is an effect where you have the original signal and the sound is made fatter by adding many copies of that sound being detuned (slightly pitched up or down) around the original frequency. It's different from chorus as it uses pitch shifting and not modulated delay I believe. That way unison gives a more "clean" fatter sound without any wobbling that you have with a classic chorus effect.

Normally you can determine the amount of voices being added (more = more CPU load, am I right?), where up to 7 or 9 (or more?) would be cool + determine how much the voices should be detuned, which is called stereo spread I believe.

Are there any plugins like that?!

Also, I have been told that in studio's they layer multiple takes in order to get the voice fatter. Can you also achieve this with a "voice fattener" plugin. Which do you recommend?!

Thanks!

Mismatch of terms:

Unison is NOT an effect.
What you mean, is simply a chorus or ensemble effect.

Unison is a multiple (and varying) processing of one and the same sound generating process, with other words: many slightly different polyphonic tones (voices) from one generation source stacked over each other to sound alltogether.


So a modification of a single voice of tone with the techniques you described above (to "fatten it" afterwards) is all more or less based on delay and pitch modifying effect processors.
Thus NOT being unisono per definition.


It also sounds much different in my humble opinion.

I only wanted to state that, before all world here thinks, that a chorus or ensemble effect is equal to unison.

[VitaminD]

all this crazy talk.. and not one person until now has mentioned EnergyXT or Chainer..

both will allow you to layer VST and VSTi plugins.. create as thick of sounds as you want..

though I'd recommend eXT as it is still being well developed.. the Chainer developer has admitted that dev has stopped for now and its unsure if he'll ever getback to it. go with eXT.

[jens]

though I'd recommend eXT as it is still being well developed..

understatement of the month!

[sangha]

maybe something like this

http://www.cloneensemble.com/

[Lunch Money]

Second question: layer multiple takes

Isn't this all you really need to know?