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The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:14 pm

Chase does! he hates all the GB of samples that he didnt back up because he's the worst procrastinator ever!

Great surprise coming home from santa fe. I don't even know what to do. I'm going to forget about producing for a while...

In closing, stay away from maxtor and/or back up your shit!

SeanyK · Post by **SeanyK** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:16 pm

Are you sure the drive is totally gone? You can get drive recovery software such as 'Get data back' and its extremely good for retreiving lost/deleted/corrupted hard drive files.

Dont use Maxtor, EVER!

Get another hard drive, Seagate ideally, and plug your Maxtor in and run a drive recovery on it, you should be able to get it all back mate.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:17 pm

maxtor sucks! and my audio drive is a maxtor !!! yay! happy me!

...no crashes lately, but luckely I back up my work

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:20 pm

If you want to buy a brand of drive that won't fail then you can buy... umm... well shit, there's nothing! Drives fail, period. For every 'horror story' someone has on here, someone else will have the same drive working for years. And yes, I have Maxtor drives in my system, working perfectly for years.

Devon

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:23 pm

SeanyK wrote:Are you sure the drive is totally gone? You can get drive recovery software such as 'Get data back' and its extremely good for retreiving lost/deleted/corrupted hard drive files.

Dont use Maxtor, EVER!

Get another hard drive, Seagate ideally, and plug your Maxtor in and run a drive recovery on it, you should be able to get it all back mate.

lol let me emphisize: crash via actual touchdown. The hard drive with samples in my comp is now a peice of motionless matter.

The HD wont even start to work.

Luckily, I have my FLStudio project files set to automatically copy over to a backup external drive every morning at 5:00 AM, so not nearly all is lost.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:25 pm

DevonB wrote:If you want to buy a brand of drive that won't fail then you can buy... umm... well shit, there's nothing! Drives fail, period. For every 'horror story' someone has on here, someone else will have the same drive working for years. And yes, I have Maxtor drives in my system, working perfectly for years.

Devon

Maxtor is horrible though. If you buy their top stuff (I.E., the highly over-priced area), you get good drives, but nothing compared to seagate for the same price.

No major corperations use maxtor for mass storage.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Mon May 30, 2005 8:46 pm

Chase Altertone wrote:
DevonB wrote:If you want to buy a brand of drive that won't fail then you can buy... umm... well shit, there's nothing! Drives fail, period. For every 'horror story' someone has on here, someone else will have the same drive working for years. And yes, I have Maxtor drives in my system, working perfectly for years.

Devon
Maxtor is horrible though. If you buy their top stuff (I.E., the highly over-priced area), you get good drives, but nothing compared to seagate for the same price.

No major corperations use maxtor for mass storage.

I don't have their 'top drives', but I have one that's been working in my main PC 24x7 for over 2 years without issue. I also have several in my DAW machines as well, again, no issues.

As for 'major' corps using Maxtor, the only real players in 'mass storage' for fiber drives right now are Seagate and Fujitsu. There is also a problem with them with their ceramic bearings in the 72 and 146 gig drives failing, and failure rates have been high. They've since been switched the a fluid bearing system, but 72 and 146 gig drives are hard to come by, at least the last time I talked to EMC about it, they were. The other players, Western Digital, Samsung, and Hitachi/IBM, are not doing fiber drives that I'm aware of. So considering that Maxtor is doing really consumer desktop drives (yes, they have the Atlus SCSI drives, I know) I wouldn't expect to see desktop drives in a mass storage array.... even if we do have SATA drives as a third tier solution, which is mainly for near online backups, and fast recovery times at lower cost.

Still, my statement stands. All drives die. I've seen TONS of those beloved Seagate drives dead in the field. But, I'm a storage administrator by profession, and have been doing storage now for over 7 years, so you tend to see plenty of problems.

Devon

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Mon May 30, 2005 8:55 pm

I had the same thing happen to me last year, was out of the house a few days, left the computer on not thinking anything of it, came home to fried hard drives. Not only did I loose my shit, but also the master recordings to an album I did for a band. The album had been out for a year or so, but they never gave me the USB hard drive they were promising to give me to back up the master recordings, so that was all lost. On the bright side, starting over from scratch has been a good thing in the long run. I'm doing better stuff now than ever, instead of trying to polish up the old crap I was doing. I now have a SATA drive I keep disabled in my computer that I just back stuff up to, and I'm gonna go out and buy a DVD Writer soon to use that as well.

(Not to self, backup files today)

Borogove · Post by **Borogove** » Mon May 30, 2005 8:56 pm

Chase Altertone wrote: lol let me emphisize: crash via actual touchdown. The hard drive with samples in my comp is now a peice of motionless matter.

A professional recovery service can extract the platters and put them in a different drive and get most of the data off (i.e. everywhere that the heads didn't actually touch down). It'll cost a couple hundred bucks, but depending on what's on the drive, it may be well worth it.

SeanyK · Post by **SeanyK** » Mon May 30, 2005 8:58 pm

In all fairness, its correct to say ALL drives fail, which of course they do, but I am ALWAYS hearing about Maxtor drives failing, I even heard of a few peoples hard drives in their SKY+ boxes failing, only to take them out to find they are indeed, Maxtors lol.

All drives fail, but im pretty sure Maxtor have the highest fail rate overall.

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Mon May 30, 2005 9:19 pm

Also keep in mind that if you starve your hard drive for power(by having an underrated nancy power supply) you are more prone to crash yer drives... make sure you got a good reliable power supply...

r2101 · Post by **r2101** » Mon May 30, 2005 9:31 pm

well sure a hd crash is always a serious crisis... but (!) it is also a chance... a chance... to move on to new frontiers, new sounds, new patches, new music... a few coffees whilst the operating system is being installed...

... i would call it a creative trigger moment... crash is a ugly word...

skOre · Post by **skOre** » Mon May 30, 2005 9:32 pm

Seagate Drives have _never_ failed on me. Dunno about maxtor, but I had a ibm (or hitachi that is) just recently starting to fail on me. Luckily I noticed that and could start a process of backing up that data...

r2101 · Post by **r2101** » Mon May 30, 2005 9:35 pm

and on a more serious note... it doesn´t really matter what brand you use (prolly gets build in the same plant after all *lol*)... cheap equipment can work for ages and expensive components can fail within weeks... :(

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon May 30, 2005 9:37 pm

r2101 wrote:and on a more serious note... it doesn´t really matter what brand you use (prolly gets build in the same plant after all *lol*)... cheap equipment can work for ages and expensive components can fail within weeks...

what a f**king horrible system to go by

Who loves major HDD failure?