Is there an audio editor that will...

[No name]

Tell me. Why do you want to do this? I know of a bitcrushing plug in Dr008 that just destroys sound quality and I never could see the point of using. What benefit can be gained by decreasing bit depth?

emulating vintage sampler sound?

4-bit though!?!? that's extreme. used for musical greeting cards maybe?

Exactly, but not quite 4-bit, somewhere along the lines of 8 and 12-bit really. I do have some sp1200 drum sounds now, and I wanna crush them a little. Read a few tips off of another forum on how to get a certain sound by "bouncing" the drums. Once I do i'll post an example.

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Thanks for that link i'm gonna check it out.

[No name]

[quote="Rednroll"]You guys know a big part of hip hop was based off of this type of sound? The EMU SP1200 was a staple in most hip hop artists arsenal because it had 12bit A/D converters that gave the sounds sampled that grainy sound, which was a desireable sound of that type of music. To achieve similar results I now use Sound Forge./quote]

SEE, i'm putting together a collection of samples. A rather large part of it will consist of Vinyl and just old or Synth drums. The sp1200, though it's so old, is still so expensive. So I figured I can take some off the original drum machine and mangle them with a bit crusher. And Voila! sp1200 sounds.

[farlukar]

Sorry if I offended Farlukar. To many hours watching my son wasting his brain with his ganeboy

Oh never mind, I was just overreacting a bit
[Offtopic]There are a lot of non-brainwasting games as well[/Offtopic], but the sounds are sweet

[Whoomph]

[quote="Rednroll"][/quote]

excellent explanation , thanks.

(I aslo swing this way )

Heck the only music I still can't get my head around is death metal (sorry guys)
Every other musical genre and I mean every(from swing to industrial electronic and everything in between, even pop (well some of it )


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[Rednroll]

Whoomph,
I think I agree with you 100%. Although, my favorite music is probably along the industrial/electronic/goth flavor, I can also hang with Pop and most everything else inbetween, but I too have had a hard time getting my head around the whole death metal stuff. Infact, I think I've attended 4 "Deicide" concerts with my friends and I leave everytime saying, "What do you guys like about this again?" I can usually hang with the music, but when the lyrics kick in, I just can't hang with the deep "Blahhhh...Blah...Blahhh...dohhhhh" aspects. I guess, you'll find me bobbin my head to Britney Spears tune before the best Deicide tune. Even Slayer, I have a hard time hanging with and I love heavy dark music.

[Whoomph]

Rednroll, I'm the same , it's only really the vocal style and lyrics in death metal that I can't get.Although I get the black humour part which I think is great, I'm really glad it exists and a little peaved that I can't swallow it whole. Same as you though ,Slayer are right at the end of the line for me.

So death metal vox/lyrics and way too corny country is all that I can't get with.


I'm now listening to some Big Band - Benny Goodman

later it'll be some Authecre
then some Man or astroman
And some where in between I'm going to check out some
of the stuff you mentioned.(thanks Again )
and I fancy some Dexter Gordan in there some where, oh and The human league have put some of their early demos online which I think you might like Rednroll.

Oh and come to think of it, if I'm really going to be honest here I have to say that some of the hard core dixie land stuff and some of the very busy ragtime stuff I find a bit difficult too,
but apart from that.....

I used to think it was hillarious when people would argue over analog v digital or guitar music v electronic, at least now attitudes have changed a bit
and were getting fresher ideas filtering in to mainstream a little easier.And less restrictions on what ins/sounds make a genre etc.

I've just got Reaktor five(:D) ,
and the new instruments are
leaning towards indus/electronica and a lot of the tech-house stuff that's been really popular recently has elements of this , and not in a too corny way either.
This all means (I think) that people who would only listen to house for example will more easily enjoy
some indus type stuff now that there has been elements
mixed in with their usual very catchy detroit type stuff.
That's my theory anyway ,

But to get right back on topic, I also think that if a generation (or 2 or 3) have spent a lot of time with their heads in a game boy/sega/atari , they're really going to enjoy 8/12 bit sounds being used in the music they listen too. Hence some really interesting new genres that are about now and are already influencing the old gaurd genres.
Bring it on I say!!!

I didn't mean to prattle on

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[Panda]

Now we're on bitcrushing, in some plugs you can set the bit number to non integer values. What does that mean? I mean, you can have 8 or 9 bits, but how the hell do you quantize to 8.6 for example?

[rsjtaylor]

Now we're on bitcrushing, in some plugs you can set the bit number to non integer values. What does that mean? I mean, you can have 8 or 9 bits, but how the hell do you quantize to 8.6 for example?

If you bitcrush to 8 bit, the samples will be truncated to one of 256 'steps', 9 would be one of 512, i guess 8.6 would just be somwhere inbetween the two (can't be bothered to do the maths to work out exactly where)
The audio is still in 32bit floating point or whatever, its just being processed so that it sounds like its a lower bit rate. The degree to which this happens doesn't need to conform to the standard rates we all know and love.

Or at least thats what i reckon, i'm no programmer.

Does anyone know if theres a bitcrusher that lets you dither as well? i've never been able to hear the difference going from 24bit - 16 with or without dither, i imagine its much more obvious going from 16 - 8 or something. Guess i could experement with a noise gen but i'm lazy.