Looking for a Bass Guitar Amp Sim plug - free of course
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
I'm often adding Logics overdrive to my basses. Rather low drive setting, around medium on the tone control. Adds a bit of compression (which is what every overdrive will do) without pumping artefacts or so. And while there might be lots of overdrive plugins doing the job fine, I allways found the internal Logic one to be rather decent for such tasks.
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 17 May, 2004 from Oulu, Finland
Huh, are they really? Maybe if you think about free alternatives, although I would try cortex, which has a lot of tweaking options for the speaker models – I’m sure you’ll find some good stuff there for bass.Barf wrote:Bass pre-amps are definetly a gap in the market, Ive posted a similar question some time ago. The Ampeg VST plug seems like a good option but no one knows when it ever is gonna be released and it certainly wont be free.
But when it comes to commercial programs: Revalver has dedicated bass speaker sims (15”, 18”), and your can make yourself a nice bass amp using the different modules. Ditto Izotope trash; there are excellent sounds there for bass and a lot of good presets, and on the izotope website you can find the “Trash receipes for bass” manual to help you make your own models.
Hell, even amplitube has presets for bass. There’s no specific bass speaker sims, but to quote from the izotope trash (!!!) bass receipes (about a 12” bass speaker model):”…Since moving a lot of volume isn’t necessary, it turns out that small speaker models can actually provide a very full bass tone, as long as they don’t have to make it very loud. And of course, as this is just software, you don’t have to make it loud at all.”
Food for thought….
Cheers
Alex
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Think about it... most real bass amps are supposed to deliver a more or less full frequency range, so speaker emulations aren't even halfway as important as for guitars (the usual 12" speakers have a drastic high cut at around 5-6 kHz).
In addition, MANY studio recordings are done with a D.I.-ed bass, even pretty much rockbased things.
I'd rather look for some good compressor and/or a mellow, yet somewhat pressing overdrive. The little bit of speaker sound you may want from a bass amp could probably be emulated rather sufficiently by using an EQ.
In addition, MANY studio recordings are done with a D.I.-ed bass, even pretty much rockbased things.
I'd rather look for some good compressor and/or a mellow, yet somewhat pressing overdrive. The little bit of speaker sound you may want from a bass amp could probably be emulated rather sufficiently by using an EQ.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 20 May, 2005
You might wanna check out the Behringer V-Tone Bass BDI21 DI box. Looks to be a cheap copy of the Tech 21 sansamp bass driver.
Unless you really have to use software.
Unless you really have to use software.
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from Sydney Australia
I got one of their GDI21 guitar versions a few weeks ago. Lucky I only bought it as a DI to sort out the impedence, the amp models are not as good as the free software ones IMO. Still a cheap DI though, and handy as an overdrive ... If the bass one's anything like that I reckon you'd be better off spending yer cash on a bass eq pedal.
And I agree about Revalver, with a bit of experimenation you can get some nice bass noise out of it. I drop my input level then go preamp9 with lots of drive then comp then power amp4 then 2x12" speakersim. Nice.
I find that whatever I use I get a better bass sound if I record at 44.1 rather than 96. Does anyone else find this?
And I agree about Revalver, with a bit of experimenation you can get some nice bass noise out of it. I drop my input level then go preamp9 with lots of drive then comp then power amp4 then 2x12" speakersim. Nice.
I find that whatever I use I get a better bass sound if I record at 44.1 rather than 96. Does anyone else find this?
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
I disagree about the GDI21. I've used a LOT of software, and the amp sims are as good or better than most. Dunno 'bout bass, though-- I never use distortion on bass because to me it ALWAYS sounds like crap.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 20 May, 2005
I have a Tech 21 TriOD for guitar, the GDI21 seems based on the Tech21 GT-2. I like the sound of my TriOD. It's not the best cabinet sound, but the distortion has a nice overall sound. Complex and hifi. I've used the TriOD on the fender channel, to give a bit of warmth/distortion on bass, and it does sound quite good. The revalver 15" speaker sim afterwards gave a nice frequency response.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Where's the download link on that site?
(Edit: Never mind, found it)
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRian
- 1335 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from ocation: cation: ation: tion: ion: on: n: :
It's on a navigation bar on top of the page, but you need to go to http://www.pxe.buntweb.de/ to see it.
Edit: nevermind...
Edit: nevermind...
the the impotence of proofreading
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Sorry about the funky link; for some reason he's not listed here on KVR, which is where I discovered it...?
Oh, I should mention: for Bass, I find it helps to turn off the "LO" switch if you want a big bottom-end.
Oh, I should mention: for Bass, I find it helps to turn off the "LO" switch if you want a big bottom-end.
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from Sydney Australia
Interesting to see some positive opinions about the GDI. I just got a new guitar so maybe it's time to give it another try and experiment with some different speaker sims. My main complaint about it was the lack of middle ground between completely clean and overdriven to hell.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Really? I found the middle ground was where it shines, and the overdriven-to-hell sounds weren't as great. <laff>
There's a lot to be said for post-distortion EQ as well, though. If I add an instance of SpinEQ and adjust the mids accordingly, the sound really takes off.
There's a lot to be said for post-distortion EQ as well, though. If I add an instance of SpinEQ and adjust the mids accordingly, the sound really takes off.
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from Sydney Australia
I did some more tooling around with the GDI and got a bit of improvement by feeding it less volume and reducing the output level then boosting with a Boss EQ. I still think Uli stole my money.
But then what would I know, I'm a bass player who only recently turned to The Darkside and got into the six string business. Maybe someone should start a GDI thread. I'd do it but who'd wanna read "How To Get A Guitar Sound That Somewhat Sucks" ...
And Bduffy, that X-Amp is a vey nice little gizmo. Where's that been hiding? Some nice guitar effects by those folks as well.
But then what would I know, I'm a bass player who only recently turned to The Darkside and got into the six string business. Maybe someone should start a GDI thread. I'd do it but who'd wanna read "How To Get A Guitar Sound That Somewhat Sucks" ...
And Bduffy, that X-Amp is a vey nice little gizmo. Where's that been hiding? Some nice guitar effects by those folks as well.