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Hi im new here,

like the VST list what a comprehensive lot

is there a VST to which i can auto shift vocal lines you know like cher and believe i tryed one that wasnt on the list but it kept going out of sync in FL5 i use :help:

thx in advance

ps anteries is a no go for me

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Welcome to KvR!

Why not try out our product - Rephrase. We've got a sale on now too. It can do this, and much more.

See here: www.leapfrogaudio.com
Justin
Leapfrog Audio
www.leapfrogaudio.com

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thx for that justin :)

people here are prompt in there posting!

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Hey man, welcome aboard! This topic has come up several times here (try a forum search for "cher vocal effect" or something similar) and the general consensus is that the effect is either a vocoder or Antares Auto-Tune. You can search the effects for a free one, there are many to be found. Here's one that I've heard good things about:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1614.html

Here's the list of freebies available through KVR:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... t=1&rpp=15

...and here is a free plug-in similar to auto-tune (pitch shift/correction):

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... her+effect

Hope that helps you.

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pgarrison wrote:Hey man, welcome aboard! This topic has come up several times here (try a forum search for "cher vocal effect" or something similar) and the general consensus is that the effect is either a vocoder or Antares Auto-Tune. You can search the effects for a free one, there are many to be found. Here's one that I've heard good things about:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1614.html

Here's the list of freebies available through KVR:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... t=1&rpp=15

...and here is a free plug-in similar to auto-tune (pitch shift/correction):

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... her+effect

Hope that helps you.
I think, a vocoder isn't the right suggestion.

He needs a realtime pitch shifter with formant correction like Autotune or even the other available tools in that area (with MIDI support) ...

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youve hit the nail on the head!! 8)

preferably dont need midi

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jackle&hyde wrote:
pgarrison wrote:Hey man, welcome aboard! This topic has come up several times here (try a forum search for "cher vocal effect" or something similar) and the general consensus is that the effect is either a vocoder or Antares Auto-Tune. You can search the effects for a free one, there are many to be found. Here's one that I've heard good things about:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1614.html

Here's the list of freebies available through KVR:

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... t=1&rpp=15

...and here is a free plug-in similar to auto-tune (pitch shift/correction):

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... her+effect

Hope that helps you.
I think, a vocoder isn't the right suggestion.

He needs a realtime pitch shifter with formant correction like Autotune or even the other available tools in that area (with MIDI support) ...
well I read somewhere that Cher's producer used a vocoder

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yeah at first but then switch over to somthin else

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multree wrote: well I read somewhere that Cher's producer used a vocoder
Paper is usually patient...

I very much doubt, that a vocoder actually can do that satisfactory.

The typical "Cher effect" is made by an pitch modifying effect, not by a spectral modifying effect. That's quite obvious. And also (exactly) reproduceble.

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jackle&hyde wrote: He needs a realtime pitch shifter with formant correction like Autotune or even the other available tools in that area (with MIDI support) ...
Check out 'Choir Boy'. It meets all these requirements.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89602
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I have seen Cher in a documentary state that this was Autotune. I have also read an in depth article by the producer saying how they used (from memory) a Nord Lead synth and a Digitech Vocoder. My guess is that Cher tracked the vocals, and was in the studio when an engineer applied too much Autotune, and the effect caught their imagination and Cher and the producer agreed that they would use that effect. Then - after Cher was gone - i'm certain that the producer wasn't totally happy with just the autotune effect, and worked on the synth/vocoder method to make it even better. Using a synth gives you perfect pitch effect, plus a lot of modulation possibilities. The Digitech vocoder box would impart the formant sound of Chers track (probably auto-tuned anyway). So I think both versions are true.

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