KVR Audio

jplanet · Post by **jplanet** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:03 pm

Many times when I install a new VST/VSTi (and I'm constantly testing new ones, free ones, evaluating, buying, etc.)Wavelab crashes on startup. It's a very time consuming process to empty the plug-ins folder, go through them one by one to see which one (or ocmbination) gets Wavelab to open again.

I am also open to suggestions on other Wave editors for Windows XP, maybe a clever alternative to Wavelab and Soundforge? I intend to master right in Tracktion, so I suppose plug-in support isn't a major issue. Just really good editing features would be nice.

useruseruser · Post by **useruseruser** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:08 pm

You can actually see, which plugin the crash caused. It is shown at the splash screen, if the load failes. So no need to manually search the bad thing.

Failed Muso · Post by **Failed Muso** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:10 pm

Have you tried Audacity ?

Open Source, stable and free

Apart from that, I find Adobe Audition is very good

jplanet · Post by **jplanet** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:26 pm

jackle&hyde wrote:You can actually see, which plugin the crash caused. It is shown at the splash screen, if the load failes. So no need to manually search the bad thing.

I noticed that, it was actually several of them. And some it passed by that crashed it before!

The last time I went through the process, it was enough to move the instruments out, and all the effects worked. But now it doesn't even like PSP Vintage Warmer, which I've used in Wavelab a hundred times.

It would be handy if you could start Wavelab from the command line with a switch for safe mode. Is there such a thing? Then I could at least go in and set up a separate plugins folder for it.

Thanks for the tip on Audacity, I'll check it out!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:35 pm

Is that Wavelab 5? I've had pretty good luck with WL5 and plug-ins. With older versions, I found WL would just decide one day that it doesn't like a lot of plugins. I had to move the ones I wanted to use to the Steinberg\Wavelab\System\Plugins folder to get them back. You can also manipulate where and what WL looks at in the Preferneces/general dialogue. And you can always edit "C:\Program Files\Steinberg\Wavelab\Presets\Plugins\plugins to ignore.txt"

jsl · Post by **jsl** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:48 pm

I don´t know how Wavelab works but
Cubase SX writes to an VST Plug File in Documents Settings/.../...Steinberg/Cubase.
When Cubase Crashes or I am having trouble with a plug I delete this file. Then Cubase writes a new one - Of course I have to remove the plug that are making trouble.
Something goes wrong with this file when Cubase writes in to it - It could have something to do with W XP security.But I am not shure.

jplanet · Post by **jplanet** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:17 am

bduffy wrote:And you can always edit "C:\Program Files\Steinberg\Wavelab\Presets\Plugins\plugins to ignore.txt"

That's the ticket! I downloaded a little freeware program that listed the entire contents of my VST directory in a text file, then I just removed the ones I need for mastering (EQ's, compressor, limiter), and pasted the list into this file. Finally I have a solid working Wavelab again!

Thanks bduffy!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:01 pm

Woo Hoo! Finally, I did something useful around here.

Wavelab crashing on startup