Surprise Live 5 !

[stale bread]

not only can you drag and drop midi/audio from the desktop but also from other vst apps, this is phenomenal
since they still haven't included a slicer, at least its easier to use whatever slicer you've already got and
just drag slices/ and midi to whereever you want in Live

also they've included the super uber dooper midi out feature that half the planet has been requesting, that feature alone has been a huge deciding point for alot of people regarding their live purchase.

[flex42]

Yeah, that would be nice. I'm recording my vinyl and it takes 2-5 minutes per track to correctly set warp markers.

pre-midi stuff? the house and techno 12"s i rip with my technics 1210 get warp-marked in 30 sec...

edit: just fit a 16 bar loop to the track, jump through it using "cursor up" and with 99% of my records two warp markers will suffice (on the 1 and on the last bar). beat-stretching should be set to "re-pitch".

[drez]

not only can you drag and drop midi/audio from the desktop but also from other vst apps, this is phenomenal
since they still haven't included a slicer, at least its easier to use whatever slicer you've already got and
just drag slices/ and midi to whereever you want in Live

also they've included the super uber dooper midi out feature that half the planet has been requesting, that feature alone has been a huge deciding point for alot of people regarding their live purchase.

Wow. I didn't even think of that. Excellent point!

[TVD]

If your CPU can't handle it ...time to upgrade! I think Crapwalk really tried to steal their thunder, but test the sequencer engines head to head youll see it's like a BMW and Ford...

Yes but have you driven a Ford lately?

I used to work for a Ford Moters dealership. Apart from a Ford Explorer, all of their cars/trucks/SUVs are a freaking joke.

[TVD]

The question is,

Will it be as good as ACID?

Ableton will crush Sony!

[TVD]

So is Live5 gonna kill every other sequencer on the planet?

A great theory. But only time will tell.

[TVD]

So is Live5 gonna kill every other sequencer on the planet?

No
- you get people who are very platform loyal.

- people who are still looking for the most
productive platform for themselves

- people who prefer a multiplatform approach.

This explains why the market is so diverse IMHO.
It also explains why apps like Plogue Bidule , Energy XT and AudioMulch for example will always have a place even within an app like Live for example.

I still think P5 and Logic come with better native plugins overall.
The biggest deal in P5 is PsynII , Dimension the standard Sampler and the drum syhtesizers etc IMHO.
Live has a superb workflow but the marriage between arranger and session view needs drastic improvement for it to be perfect IMHO.
Reason 3 - especially with the Combinator is a breath of fresh air in Live for example (well it is for me anyway) etc etc etc .......

I agree!

FL Studio & Live 3 are great in my set-up.

[pHz]

So is Live5 gonna kill every other sequencer on the planet?

A great theory. But only time will tell.

i thought thats was what live 4 was meant to do already ???

slainte rob

[AD80]

I used to work for a Ford Moters dealership. Apart from a Ford Explorer, all of their cars/trucks/SUVs are a freaking joke.

[Meffy]

*shrug* So what does it transform into?

[declassified]

I agree!

FL Studio & Live 3 are great in my set-up.

Check your PMs

[illsub1]

Give it time. Ableton is a relatively new kid on the block and has the best app IMO by far. It just keeps getting better. The thing that sets them apart is they actually listen to what their customers feature requests and respond to any problems you have in PERSON (they also update the product on a regular basis). They are the most forward thinking, and in doing so have developed an entirely new INSTRUMENT not unlike the piano, drums, decks, etc... Thanks be to Ableton.

[shamann]

So if you bought v3, upgrade to v4, and will upgrade to v5, you'll have spent more than $600 in two to three years on this software. Doesn't that seem like a lot of money? And then the devout still say things like "but you have to give it time."

Live's a nice application, some of this new stuff is interesting to be sure, but that still seems to me like an awful lot of money. Audiomulch cost me something like $50 in 2001, is super powerful and super stable, and I've managed to make hundreds of hours of music with it. And I've made feature requests to the developer that were implemented in the next free incremental upgrade (which come roughly every three months).

Don't you feel a little bit ripped off by this kind of business practice? Maybe it's par for the course when a company decides to classify their application as a "DAW", but still, you guys are too easy. Mulch and EnergyXT and a whackload of quality freeware (if you don't know which ones, Id' be happy to give you a list) would give you a near complete feature match, and then some, and it would set you back $100.

Sorry if this was a bit trollish of me (not my intention), but I was surprised no one had said it yet.

Cheers,
Steve

[kodama]

Well I guess you could go open source and $0 is infinitely cheaper than $100

[TVD]

I used to work for a Ford Moters dealership. Apart from a Ford Explorer, all of their cars/trucks/SUVs are a freaking joke.

This piece of shit will always end up in the service repair department after the first 6 months!

And don't get me started about the accident prone Thunderbird.