GuitarPort and PODxt?

[hello1234]

I don't imagine people would even consider the GuitarPort over a Pod unless price were the issue, though, so that's a moot point.

That's how I got my guitar port.......I was tight on bucks and my gnx2 (that was actully a nice unit) took a dump .........well.........I loved it to "death" actually........anyways.......that little guitar point got me through.

[hello1234]

eyeknow666 quoth The thing is that it's much much cleaner (quality of signal) and of course nice to have the foot controls.

What's the actual difference in the AD and DA convertors then? The GP is supposed to be 24bit so whats the difference?

That has nothing to do with it. The input is a preamp of sorts........kinda like people talking about a soundcraft vs (name some crappy board here) I Have a very beat to death customized to the hilt jazz bass with 18 volt system.......no matter what.......there was usually a "crappy preamp" distortion.......and it was a dirty signal.....you can't tell on guitar.......but on bass.......WOA!

The xt live must have something much better cause I can have the pickups all the way up , the exb all the way up and the output on the lxt all the way up.........no problem. Even with a bit of clipping from to high input signal.......no problem...........clllleeeeeeaaaaaaaannnnnn!

BTW you can use MIDI from anything to control the Guitarport.

A midi controller can be used to control some of the settings........aledgedly you can change the cc's yourself.....I never bothered.

There are problems with the software/guitarport connections for ALL line6 products since the usb is also asio drivers.

What problems, exactly?

The asio drivers like to "hijack" the soundcard you are using.......It's not critical.......but it's annoying.......

and although not quite as many amps and such as the more expensive units, it's still a fun and funcktional product.

Unless you get the model packs, like I already said. If you do, you can get exactly the same number of amps and effects as the Vetta II.

I don't know about the podxt........but podLIVExt includes a model pack.........which may be what you are refering to.

[hello1234]

yeah for me the guitarport was the answer since my live rig i like to keep analog... pretty much just plug into my amp and roll.. maybe through my ts9 or voodoo chorus in the signal path but thats about it.. when it comes to recording i like to be able to layer a bunch of different guitar amps, and unfortunately at the moment I cannot afford a jcm800, dual rect, bassman, ac30, etc. etc. etc. so for $76 I can have approximations of the tones they would generate.

unlike eyeknow, i actually just installed the software from the cd, plugged the GP in and everything worked.. shocking!. hehe. on my AthlonXP3000+ it seems like the GP takes about 10% CPU-ish?.. I might try using a laptop I have laying around as a "dedicated" guitarport during recording so my DAW doesn't get bogged down...

Oh...nono no........I'm sorry......it's not that it doesn't work.......it's that the asio drivers that are necessary for using the editor have a tendency to overtake your main soundcard........it's only a problem with like.....you have your host set up for let's say........maudio 24/96 asio. when you turn on guitarport (or podxt, or whateverline6.......) sometimes it will just switch to the line6 driver which can be annoying.........

Using the line6 drivers as a soundcard (you can just use the headphones into the guitarport) never failed me.

[napsack]

there are model packs available for the guitarport, pod xt, and pod xt live all separately. Granted the Live may come with more models out-of-the-box, but the GP, PodXT, and PodLiveXT can all be upgraded to have the same number of models as the Vetta, so they can all get to the same place.

Regarding ASIO, i'm not sure what you mean by hijack, but AFAIK ASIO 2.0 only supports a single instance of an ASIO driver in a host... so if by hijack you mean that you cannot use your GP and sound card X's ASIO drivers together in a host that is by design.

Regarding your bass with the GP that is somethign that is mentioned in Line6's FAQ's for the Guitarport:

Question
Can I plug my bass guitar into GuitarPort?
Answer
Although GuitarPort was designed to be used with electric guitars, a bass guitar can be connected to the GuitarPort input jack. Naturally, because all of the amp models in GuitarPort are modeled after guitar amps, the results achieved with a bass guitar may be less then satisfying. Please keep in mind that many bass guitars feature active pickups that may overdrive and possibly damage the input of the GuitarPort.

[whyterabbyt]

[quote="eyeknow666 quoth
That has nothing to do with it. The input is a preamp of sorts........kinda like people talking about a soundcraft vs (name some crappy board here) I Have a very beat to death customized to the hilt jazz bass with 18 volt system.......no matter what.......there was usually a "crappy preamp" distortion.......and it was a dirty signal.....you can't tell on guitar.......but on bass.......WOA!

So you'd suggest preamping if using the GP? Fair enough.

I don't know about the podxt........but podLIVExt includes a model pack.........which may be what you are refering to.

Nope, like I said that I had already said in an earlier post, Im referring to the fact that the GP takes modelpacks, meaning the number of possible models isnt really a factor.

[napsack]

Oh...nono no........I'm sorry......it's not that it doesn't work.......it's that the asio drivers that are necessary for using the editor have a tendency to overtake your main soundcard........it's only a problem with like.....you have your host set up for let's say........maudio 24/96 asio. when you turn on guitarport (or podxt, or whateverline6.......) sometimes it will just switch to the line6 driver which can be annoying.........

Using the line6 drivers as a soundcard (you can just use the headphones into the guitarport) never failed me.

Ah hah.. Gotcha... Yeah, I'm not 100% thrilled with how you need to set things up to record the GP directly.. so I have a docking station sitting here for my laptop that has SPDIF out, I'm hoping I can set my laptop up with GP and use the SPDIF to go into my MIA and get a nice clean signal w/o having to jump through the driver hoops...

[timmyo]

there are model packs available for the guitarport, pod xt, and pod xt live all separately. Granted the Live may come with more models out-of-the-box, but the GP, PodXT, and PodLiveXT can all be upgraded to have the same number of models as the Vetta, so they can all get to the same place.

Regarding ASIO, i'm not sure what you mean by hijack, but AFAIK ASIO 2.0 only supports a single instance of an ASIO driver in a host... so if by hijack you mean that you cannot use your GP and sound card X's ASIO drivers together in a host that is by design.

Regarding your bass with the GP that is somethign that is mentioned in Line6's FAQ's for the Guitarport:

Question
Can I plug my bass guitar into GuitarPort?
Answer
Although GuitarPort was designed to be used with electric guitars, a bass guitar can be connected to the GuitarPort input jack. Naturally, because all of the amp models in GuitarPort are modeled after guitar amps, the results achieved with a bass guitar may be less then satisfying. Please keep in mind that many bass guitars feature active pickups that may overdrive and possibly damage the input of the GuitarPort.

GP now includes Bass amp models too (in fact they make very good clean guitar amp models !) - but yeah, if you hook up an ACTIVE bass then that's bad - it is designed for passive pickups.

[hello1234]

even in passive mode (custom......I tell ya.........) it does.

It's harder to describe than it is to hear.......

[timmyo]

even in passive mode (custom......I tell ya.........) it does.

It's harder to describe than it is to hear.......

Fairy snuff - not tried myself - good to know in case I ever do though.

[napsack]

i've got an el-cheapo yamaha passive bass at home, i'll have to give it a try.

[tee boy]

I had a v2 Pod, now I have an XT. There is a difference between the two, definately. Im not sure if the Port is based on the old Pod on the XT version.

btw, Iv been using it as a front end for my Bluesbreaker. Sounds wonderful! If you have an amp knocking around I strongly suggest you try your amb sim with it.

[napsack]

From what I've read with the new 2.5 software the guitar port is supposed to be more or less on par with the XT.. With the older software apparently the GP was more or less on par with a foot. No experience with the early software myself though.

[jantzen]

So, a podxt over a GP. What about PodXT Pro? Does it have no advantage apart from the connectivity???

GP - 80 Pounds
PODxt - 240 Pounds
PODxt Live - 350 Pounds
PODxt Pro - 400 Pounds

I won't be considering the Live cos I won't be gigging with it, I still much much more prefer the analog sound over digital.

Jantzen

[sangha]

So, a podxt over a GP. What about PodXT Pro? Does it have no advantage apart from the connectivity???

GP - 80 Pounds
PODxt - 240 Pounds
PODxt Live - 350 Pounds
PODxt Pro - 400 Pounds

I won't be considering the Live cos I won't be gigging with it, I still much much more prefer the analog sound over digital.

Jantzen

I seem to remember reading, on Line6's website, that the main difference is that the Pro has more connectivity, and the foot controller. The software is basically the same. The Pro may have a better preamp, but I don't know anything about that.

[PaulG]

Just to throw in another 2 cents...

I do rock/metal with GP and Sonar 4 PE with a US-122 and a bunch of MIDI/vsti's and no problems at all...NOW. It took about 2 months, though, to get the whole thing configured "goodly"...