KVR Audio

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sat May 07, 2005 5:07 am

not sure if this has been discussed in detail, please notify me of any threads that have all this info but...

i want to buy a minidisc to record outdoor sounds. does anyone know of some old models to look at on Ebay, or does anyone know of a mp3/voice recorder that boasts a solid sample rate/low compression for a cheap price?

and has anyone bought in-ear binaurals from sound professionals?

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:52 am

Line in and Line out – they are the two things your mini disk needs (unless you want to use the real small plug-in power mics, then you need mic in, ie if you need to be really small and portable) – it also needs to be a later version Later type R or S ATRAC. There have been many ATRAC versions and some really are of no use – the later stuff however is.

It’s a cheap and efficient way to get samples from outside, its not as good at DAT or a portable PC quality wise, but pretty close and for the most part sufficient imo.

What I done with my mini disk set-ups is to by-pass the mic input an use the line in option – I combined this with a ‘portable’ mixer that runs on battery power plus use semi decent mics, both dynamic and condenser – the mics are pretty important – and another cool way to get better recordings than most with a mini disk.

This portable solution though is big in the end, mic stands, cable, heavy mics, the mixer and then the really small mini disk

The oldest model mini disk I have is the MZ-R909 it has all I need Line in and Line out and none of the net stuff on it

though my later minis have and I feel you are just paying for bloat really with those.

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

Spratman · Post by **Spratman** » Sat May 07, 2005 2:16 pm

Just to make sure your life doesn't become a misery Tunes, *all minidiscs* that Sony makes are "recordable" [you have to get the music on some how right!?] however not all of them come with line or mic-in though. Be careful.

Quite a few people have made the mistake of assuming that recordable actually means a unit must have mic-in and or linein inputs. Not necessarily true, most base models don't have them.

And no I've never made that mistake in case you were wondering.

Spratman

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sat May 07, 2005 3:38 pm

im looking at the sony MZ30 now actually, any opinions on this one?

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Sat May 07, 2005 4:40 pm

sharp mt80, mic in, line in, optical in, recharges battery for me, slim silver sounds solid I got it new for £6o

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sat May 07, 2005 11:20 pm

Spratman wrote:Just to make sure your life doesn't become a misery Tunes, *all minidiscs* that Sony makes are "recordable"....

yeah that's one thing that i have always been careful about. thanks

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sat May 07, 2005 11:23 pm

Spe3D wrote:It’s a cheap and efficient way to get samples from outside, its not as good at DAT or a portable PC quality wise, but pretty close and for the most part sufficient imo.

yeah i've been looking at them because it's a great way to get sounds without drawing attention to yourself if you have a covert microphone. you can go on an airplane, in the bank, a restaurant and no one will think you're a terrorist like if you carry a DAT and a huge shotgun mic around!

Jeremy_NSL · Post by **Jeremy_NSL** » Sat May 07, 2005 11:33 pm

for those of us who don't want to go with the seperate mixer approach spe3d suggests, which models have the best internal mic preamps?

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sun May 08, 2005 3:31 am

floyd wrote:for those of us who don't want to go with the seperate mixer approach spe3d suggests, which models have the best internal mic preamps?

how much are you willing to spend? have you seen the Edirol handheld recorder? that one has great pre's for a small portable device.

also on sonicstate they flash a new M-Audio Recorder that was shown at Messe but i havent heard anything about it.

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sun May 08, 2005 3:34 am

so im looking at these Sound Professionals In-Ear mics im trying to decide which is the best sensitivity for MD recorders

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-b ... m/SP-TFB-2

Low Sensitivity:

* Signal To Noise Ratio: >58 dB, 1 kHz at 1 Pa
* Dynamic Range: 76dB without battery module, 91dB with battery module
* Frequency Response: 20 - 20,000 Hz +/- 1dB
* Open Circuit Sensitivity: -42 dB (5.6 mV) re 1V at 1 Pa
* Maximum Input Sound Level: 105 dB SPL, 1 kHz at 1% T.H.D. (120dB with battery module)

High Sensitivity:

* Signal To Noise Ratio: >62 dB, 1 kHz at 1 Pa
* Dynamic Range: 81dB without battery module, 95dB with battery module
* Frequency Response: 20 - 20,000 Hz +/- 1dB
* Open Circuit Sensitivity: -35 dB (5.6 mV) re 1V at 1 Pa
* Maximum Input Sound Level: 98 dB SPL, 1 kHz at 1% T.H.D. (113dB with battery module)

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Mon May 30, 2005 7:01 pm

I am going to resurrect this thread. I am interested in a relatively cheap mini-disc + small mike setup as well. I travel a lot and perhaps I can spend an evening, soaking in the sounds of the place I am in, or just drive to the ocean or the desert and get those sounds. That I don't know what to do after that is another story

lunarhalo · Post by **lunarhalo** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:41 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 97722&rd=1

~~LH

xander · Post by **xander** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:21 am

I have the Sharp IM-DR80.

It has all the desired features, I/O, etc., and sounds incredible. It's mic attenuation is excellent.

portable recording devices