VSTI Sampler For Someone That Samples
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from Denver Co
I use awave to do soundfonts. Depending on the number of layers(no layers needed in your case) a quick one off to sf2. is cake. The SFZ can play these or Dimension can load these directly as wave files. Then the pitching is simple. In your case I wonder if Dimension might not be the quickest fix.
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Distorted_Mastermind Distorted_Mastermind https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62388
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 391 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Kansas City, KS
I'll check out both of those options. Probably shouldn't take much. The multisamples and pitch correction are the main issues.
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Distorted_Mastermind Distorted_Mastermind https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62388
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 391 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Kansas City, KS
ok....I looked at both awave and did a search for dimension. Awave looks like it has some serious potenitial. I downloaded the demo version to check it out. If dimension was made by rgc then it became part of project 5 version 2. I checked the rgc site for it and it had nothing, same with cakewalk.
I will try awave. It looks good and I would be able to blend sounds, and have many more resources for sure. It also seems like a better way to give each set of sounds the individual attention it needs.
Off to try it. The waveshaping might be a cool feature. Will be hard to top shortcircuit, but better check it out to see if it fits my needs better
I will try awave. It looks good and I would be able to blend sounds, and have many more resources for sure. It also seems like a better way to give each set of sounds the individual attention it needs.
Off to try it. The waveshaping might be a cool feature. Will be hard to top shortcircuit, but better check it out to see if it fits my needs better
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Distorted_Mastermind Distorted_Mastermind https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62388
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 391 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Kansas City, KS
ok...good thing I didn't go the vsti route. With awave and sound forge I can do anything I want and more (that's good...already got some ideas). I like the idea of being able to edit and have it ready to go when i load it in the host. That will save time in the long run and help me focus on music.
I messed around with it for a little bit. It looks like there's a lot to it. I doubt I even came close seeing many of the features. The import and export options are very good. That means future compatability probably won't be an issue.
The sfz player is great. It doesn't use much cpu as long as the sound fonts are small in size. I noticed the resampling in awave is really good...probably only 1 note per octave needs to be sampled.
One question I did have about it is if you can blend sounds together. I think you can, but want to make sure. If so this is by far the best option for the way I sample.
Thank you everyone for the help. I guess versitility is what I was after. Sometimes it's good to have people to talk things through with. It's appriciated
I messed around with it for a little bit. It looks like there's a lot to it. I doubt I even came close seeing many of the features. The import and export options are very good. That means future compatability probably won't be an issue.
The sfz player is great. It doesn't use much cpu as long as the sound fonts are small in size. I noticed the resampling in awave is really good...probably only 1 note per octave needs to be sampled.
One question I did have about it is if you can blend sounds together. I think you can, but want to make sure. If so this is by far the best option for the way I sample.
Thank you everyone for the help. I guess versitility is what I was after. Sometimes it's good to have people to talk things through with. It's appriciated
Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
-Richard M. Nixon
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from Denver Co
Awave can do a lot more than I've ever attempted to use. But I build all my sound fonts the old fashioned way. I use SF because I like being able to see whats happening and have that controll. To blend sounds you could assign two different sounds in the same SF2 pan to taste and go. Remember that in sf2 for a stereo set you need 2 mono tracks and set then L,R When you blend sound usinf sf2 you can set the secondary sound to slowly get stronger with velocity. Just set it as a layer. I usually blend several sounds but for a simple sf2 I do this using my host. Dimension is in P5 and it's to die for. If you can pull the funds together you won't regret it. 
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SFZ+,P5. And two kick ass DawBox machines!
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 1 Jun, 2005 from australia
hi guys nice to be able to veiw such expereinced opinions on the most burning question i have too along this vein;i have the cubase and reaktor 4 and am really an axehead;but what kind of simple sampler should i get to convert audio(bass or guitar) to midi(keyboard,vst)notes on my keyboard.would halion,kontakt,x phrase or should i just upgrade to R5 and try my own?? i have tried in R4 but i think i am missing something.please help also, thanks steve!!
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from Denver Co
First you take the recording and break into in to note/cords loop. Starting from scratch and building a guitar soundfont or sample set is not as simple as it sounds because the samples of each note need to be prepard. I use SoundForge to do this and a step by step will take some time. Then once all my notes are in order and named by pitch I keymap then using awave for soundfont. I can use vsampler for this as well. But awave is a editor for sample sets. This allows you to see a lot that is hidden using it. You can use a sampler but I've always just recorded my sets using my host. Depending on how big a set you want to make the detail would overwhelm this post if I got in to velocity layers and such but to start simple record all the open strings on you guitar. One note at a time as a note strike. The notes then need to be edited so no dead air is present at the start and none at the end of each note. These all need to have about the same amplitude as well so creative normalizing is in order. once this is done each wave file then need to be named for pitch as in E2,A2,. For most simple sets not every note is sampled. As the strings on a guitar are pitched a 5th apart.
more to come if you want it.
more to come if you want it.
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SFZ+,P5. And two kick ass DawBox machines!
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- KVRAF
- 3345 posts since 8 Nov, 2003 from Amsterdam
lawapa: What do you mean with 'awave is an editor for sample sets'? I'm using VSampler now (bought it recently), I'm not sure that I understand what you mean and why you prefer awave...
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from Denver Co
Vsampler will work just fine to keymap you sets to. But I got used to working with an editor and prefer using that. Tools which are not available in Vsampler are in Awave. But I prep my sets in SoundForge so When I go to make a font everythings just about set. But this is all just preference. Vsampler can work cause I've mapped out work just to get the experiance using it. If you have no problem using Vsampler then run with it. It is a most versital instrument and I have this and use it.
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SFZ+,P5. And two kick ass DawBox machines!
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Distorted_Mastermind Distorted_Mastermind https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62388
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 391 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Kansas City, KS
I tried both and liked Awave better myself. I guess he had a pretty good idea of what I was after. It works good, supports about any format, and saves in most popular formats. So compatability isn't a problem.
I got used to doing all my editing in Sound Forge, so I make alomst all my samples outside of a host anyway. It works better for me overall....not exactly a sampler, but it will do the trick with a nice companion plugin and increases overall possibilities imo.
I got used to doing all my editing in Sound Forge, so I make alomst all my samples outside of a host anyway. It works better for me overall....not exactly a sampler, but it will do the trick with a nice companion plugin and increases overall possibilities imo.
Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
-Richard M. Nixon
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