How much can you sell online? cd baby, raphsody, amazon, mp3

[netsound]

1.How many tracks do people without a record deal sell online at music site such as Cd baby, amazon, mp3.com...?

2.Is there a way to find out other then subscribing to soundscan...?

3.I rarely buy music anymore with all the internet radios like, winamp's list of stations, recently yahoo unlimited, napster, raphsody. Do people just not buy anymore because of this?

4.How do you get your music on napster music service or raphsody? Do you need a record deal?

[netsound]

Tough Question Huh?

Its not just about making music, its also a business.

[androidlove]

Crap, I can't give my tunes away.

[cyanogen]

CDBaby will put your songs on iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, etc.:

http://www.cdbaby.net/dd

[atomic_(no)afro]

Found on Tech Dirt:

Another Example Of The Patron Donation Model For Content Creation

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[P.T.]

It's always been near impossible to make money in music.
Soon it will be completely impossible.

Do yourself a favor and view it as a hobby and enjoy yourself.

You do realize that most bands getting regular commercial radio airtime aren't making any money either.

[netsound]

What about electronic music? club stuff, trance

[Left Headphone]

It's always been near impossible to make money in music.
Soon it will be completely impossible.

Do yourself a favor and view it as a hobby and enjoy yourself.

You do realize that most bands getting regular commercial radio airtime aren't making any money either.

First off, you've got to have a good product. if your music sucks, no one will want to buy it...

If your music is getting played on Clear Channel radio stations in the states, your going to move a few units...

If you want to make money doing this, you have to persistent...

[Hernan]

Check out Nadine Condon's Hot Hits, Cheap Demos. For me it's too late, but I wish I had that book 20 years ago.

Basically it says: gig, gig, gig. Sell CD's at the gigs, create a local following, grow from there.

I don't know if there is an Internet equivalent of the "local following." Maybe there is, but I haven't found it. If you find it, let me know.

Just my 2 cents.

L

[Pouckypluysch]

Performing live is a way to make some bucks out of music.

[M'Snah]

If you really want to make money with music, forget it's music (e.g. passion), and write a business plan . That means: market research, which musical areas have the best opportunities, do you have the skills to create that kind of music, which sales channels to use, etc etc.
Do you want to sell your own music to consumers? or do you want a contract with a label (less profits for you)? or maybe you want to be a (freelance) composer of soundtracks and film music, which is more like a business-to-business model... etc...

[netsound]

I hear music for movies and tv shows is the largest market right now...

[cptgone]

You do realize that most bands getting regular commercial radio airtime aren't making any money either.

They do get paid for the airplay you know...

[AzureCrystal]

Performing live is a way to make some bucks out of music.

Yep, I agree with this poster who suggests playing live, heck, you will make some "side" money, you'll learn which songs moves people and which don't, plus you do get to sell CDs at your gigs, especially if people start remembering you..... Don't expect to make much more that $150 per gig though(for a typical 5 piece band), and if you're booked more than 3 times a month, you're doing good these days

In terms of recording a CD, we are working with a "real" music producer for our second CD, and these days producers will not TOUCH an artist that does not have a GREAT live show, he was not even interested in us until we started playing live and had a "live" fan base, he invites other industry heavies to our concerts and live gigs, this is how he gets them interested in giving us a record deal....

[AzureCrystal]

Here is what producers these days are telling artists, this is taken right out of one of our conversations with our producer who has some top names under his wing:

When asked what his role in relation to our band is, he said:

"If this is going to be a project where I'll be executive producer, then all recording related planning that you are doing likely needs to stop. Wipe the slate clean.

Everything related to the project from my company's perspective would be driven based on an analysis done at the rehearsal with potential band members. It would be even better to do that analysis at a real gig. There are really no meetings before this. I need to assess the artistic situation and plan based on that.

So if Azureth is turning out to be a healthy environment for nurturing the best musicality out of you, then that's where the energy should be. Frequently Chick Corea would only go into to the studio -after- a set of songs has been road tested and fine tuned at gigs. Then these songs become candidates for a CD/Album...at which time the detailed planning begins.

So all the energy you have now should be focused on developing a good smooth progressive sound, arrangements etc. Once I get a chance to see what's there either at a rehearsal taping, or better yet a gig or two, then it's my responsibility submit a formal proposal to you... This proposal would contain roles, responsibilities and personnel, timing and financials."

We asked him about his involvement until a deal is signed and he said:

"As far as involvement with Azureth, initially I'd like it to be a casual relationship like this: An up and coming music executive who's loves live music, and likes the prospects of putting together a deal for Azureth. When they perform, I'm aware of it, and I attend.

The same way I attend Miles High/Lauren Carter events when I'm around. Very low key, then when the stars line up so to speak, we start talking about a suitable deal.

As far as the demo recording at Logan's Run studio I would love to be there."

Hope this gives you some idea where things are headed, but definitely the live aspect is more important for producers today more than ever....