How do YOU feel about your music being pirated?

[Max el Belga]

Congratualations ! You´ve made it ! Your music is worth pirating !

[Arksun]

To me the true pirates are the industry people

Oh grow up please. I hate it when people post with no idea of the industry as a whole and how much soo many labels are struggling now. If I steal your car does that make the car company the real pirate for not offering sufficient car security.

Before the internet and file sharing, nobody saw the industry as pirates, people simply loved music and buying music.

Now they can get it for free illegally without getting caught, how dare they try and interfere with protecting an industry, wow they must be bad.

Now, they've clearly made some mistakes in the way they've tried to deal with the issue of p2p sharing, but it doesn't change the fact its illegal, its wrong and its disrespectful to the huge amount of time and effort artists put into their work.

The music business has always been a business. Producers and artist putting in hard work, you do a job you get paid. You create something beautiful that people want shouldn't you recieve something in return.

Art and money have ALWAYS gone hand in hand, from todays music to great painters of the past, their very lives depended on a paycheck, leonardo da vinci whoever!.

Arksun

[munchkin]

To me the true pirates are the industry people

Oh grow up please. I hate it when people post with no idea of the industry as a whole and how much soo many labels are struggling now. If I steal your car does that make the car company the real pirate for not offering sufficient car security.

Before the internet and file sharing, nobody saw the industry as pirates, people simply loved music and buying music.

Now they can get it for free illegally without getting caught, how dare they try and interfere with protecting an industry, wow they must be bad.

Now, they've clearly made some mistakes in the way they've tried to deal with the issue of p2p sharing, but it doesn't change the fact its illegal, its wrong and its disrespectful to the huge amount of time and effort artists put into their work.

The music business has always been a business. Producers and artist putting in hard work, you do a job you get paid. You create something beautiful that people want shouldn't you recieve something in return.

Art and money have ALWAYS gone hand in hand, from todays music to great painters of the past, their very lives depended on a paycheck, leonardo da vinci whoever!.

Arksun

P2P isn't the cause of poverty for millions of musicians. Musicians have always been exploited by the music industry. It's the unfair practices of the record industry that impact on all of us. The record industry is worth billions but musicians are the ones who create the music and get a tiny fraction of that profit.

I welcome any downloading of my music. Even when I'm as big as Madonna.

[LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY]

I wouldn't charge for my music in the first place.. I'll get a real job for income, art should be free. Allthough donations are welcome.

[tkay77]

...the music industry (majors) are not pirates, but blindfolded big capitalists..

they concentrate mostly on making profit by supporting only big stars
they are not interested in the things music really needs: variety, creativity, quality and honesty
they use their power to block all relevant media channels in TV and radio by placing always the same boring songs

these are things i can´t support

tkay

Edit: so my music would be free, if i ever decide to publish a song

[LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY]

I can't support that bullshit either...

Here in seattle theres these two radio stations 90.3 and 90.7, which only play independent and experimental electronic music at night. My radio seldom leaves those channels.

edit: and theres no commercials either.

[Quaternion]

I wouldn't charge for my music in the first place.. I'll get a real job for income, art should be free.

I am far away from living from my music, I'm just earning peanuts. I'm not signed at a major, but at a small niche label, which relies on every single copy it sells.

I don't want to live on making music, I want to maintain it as something I enjoy, not as something I HAVE to do in order to earn a living. Still I think I should get what I deserve.

And not charging anything is just out of touch with reality.

Do you expect a label to produce records and give them away for free?

[Funkybot]

I would love it if people were listening to me at all, but again I'm not trying to make a career out of my music. If I was, that'd be a different story. I've given up entirely on pirating music (which I used to do a lot to check out new bands) because between being able to purchase a few songs for a buck a pop on iTunes, and having satellite radio which plays a lot of the bands I've been meaning to check out, there's no need to. Also I try and go to a lot of shows, and if a band has some material for sale that I don't already own I always try and buy directly from them, just to help them out that much more.

[Bunnyboy]

I like the idea of people downloading my band's tunes. I think its an ace way of getting noticed. Of course if it is a commercial venture that you are making with your music, then I can see why you would get annoyed to a certain extent.

However, if you get so precious about it, why are you in the art game??

Way back in the mists of time, swapping tapes was done. Where was the fuss about that?? Okay, it probably wasnt on the same scale as P2P, but it is responsible for a sizable amount of my early music collection

[zumbido]

Some of you are incredibly ignorant.

Blissful, isn't it?

Still, I truly feel sorry for you.

[Quaternion]

However, if you get so precious about it, why are you in the art game??

I'm not considering my music "art", but "entertainment".

As I said before, if there was no piracy, it would most probably not make any difference.

I just wanted to know people's views on pirated music & ethics.

Since there is so much fuzz about cracked software, I thought to bring that topic up, assuming there are more musicians here than developers... (maybe I'm wrong? )

[tkay77]

Here in seattle theres these two radio stations 90.3 and 90.7, which only play independent and experimental electronic music at night.

yeah at night, but at night i´m normally sleeping... and i´m living in germany..there aren´t radio station in every city and i can see only two music different channels wich play the same songs everyday....

tkay

[c_huelsbeck]

I got 3 of my tracks on iTunes (with the help of a friend and his little label) that were available for free on mp3.com (before they died) then soundclick etc. as well as several p2p networks.

Guess what, I got 88 paid iTunes downloads over 3 month... doesn't sound like I'm quitting my day job over it, but it shows to me that when you give people the ability to do the right thing and make it easy, they buy your stuff, no matter if they could get it free or pirated.

Sure enough I'm preparing more of my music for the online music sites right now...

[Arksun]

Regardless of your views on the practices of the big major labels, the fact of the matter is that people who illegally download music do not discriminate solely against these large labels but download ANY track from big to very small labels and that is why it has hit many independant labels very very hard. So when some gimp writes on a forum "well i think its ok cause they make loadsa money" that's just pathetic.

Those smaller labels, that can't release albums and just release singles relying on those to stay afloat , it has a real impact on their sales. Looking at the dance music industry alone a lot of well known labels went under because of it.

Because General Motors is such a big car company, I guess that's ok to steal their cars because they probably exploit cheap parts and labour from around the world.

Hey, Wallmart gets products very cheap from china, lets steal their goods too because they're making soo much profit.

*sigh* at the end of the day stealing is stealing, dress it up all you want, you want a track fast in digital format and with some gaurantee of quality and not some dodgy rip, buy it from a digital download site

Arksun

[Quaternion]

Word.