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The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:57 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:Couldn't you turn about almost any drum sample into something sort of suitable?
I quite doubt that famous DnB producers are buying their libraries (or whatever they might be using) because they're labelled "DnB drums". I think they're just modifying whatever samples instead.

You'd be surprised. Most modern DnB isnt that original...

@Cypherone: Youre right I did miss your point. I should of emphasized more. Besides popular sampled drum breaks, there are popular kicks, snares, etc. as well. Most of these came from popular sample kits.

nibbzious · Post by **nibbzious** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:25 pm

I myself use all the standard breaks. I usually just layer them pretty carefully to get something new. Like highpass two different snares and lowpass two different snares and combine the heads and tails. Try and hunt down the 101 Breaks Pack that was posted on DoA. A lifetime of single hits in there.

What I'll do is take a snare with a nice big THUNK and boost it at 200-500 hz and lowpass it @ 1khz. Then take a clap and a 909 snare and highpass it 2-3khz. Compress the chunky snare to remove dynamics so it's just lifeless "plunk" then compress the layered 909 snare/clap like atk 11 ms and release 250 ms to give it a snap. One can just edit the amp envelope to it, also. Then put a reverb on this with like 50-100 ms predelay. Then I got myself a nice fat DnB snare.

If I do use a sample CD for single hits, it doesn't necessarily say "Drum n Bass/Jungle" on it. Any breaks CD will do. And who says they have to be kicks and snares for your hits? Reach out and touch your inner Photek.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:00 pm

lol trust me i'm not looking for a tutorial on programming breaks. Thankyou, though. I should give audio examples of the kind of stuff I'm looking for.

The 101 breaks pack sounds familiar I'll try to track it down.

peejunk · Post by **peejunk** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:40 pm

Chase Altertone wrote:@Cypherone: Youre right I did miss your point. I should of emphasized more. Besides popular sampled drum breaks, there are popular kicks, snares, etc. as well. Most of these came from popular sample kits.

And you want to participate in this for what reason? I personally think it's shit partly because they're not something unachievable by means available to a typical bedroom producer, unlike classic breaks. Using standard breaks to achieve that 90s "quotation" sampling effect is one thing (tho today, I'd prefer it done as an edit or something, not throughout the whole track), but using the same hits that everyone uses?

Most drums that keep showing up on all those crappy generic dnb releases nowdays, were some badass produced ones from some older dnb track, that everyobody and their dog has sampled and uses. I'm participating in most jungle production communities, and I'm 100% positive there are no standard dnb oneshot drums but those sampled off some older dnb record.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:44 pm

peejunk wrote:
Chase Altertone wrote:Oh yea, and opposed to being constructive to this forum, could someone just c**t up this thread and insult my genre of music and production technique? Thanks.
I personally think it's shit partly because they're not something unachievable by means available to a typical bedroom producer, unlike classic breaks. Using standard breaks to achieve that 90s "quotation" sampling effect is one thing (tho today, I'd prefer it done as an edit or something, not throughout the whole track), but using the same hits that everyone uses?

Most drums that keep showing up on all those crappy generic dnb releases nowdays, were some badass produced ones from some older dnb track, that everyobody and their dog has sampled and uses. I'm participating in most jungle production communities, and I'm 100% positive there are no standard dnb oneshot drums but those sampled off some older dnb record.

Katanaman · Post by **Katanaman** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:38 pm

Chase Altertone wrote:
peejunk wrote:
Chase Altertone wrote:Oh yea, and opposed to being constructive to this forum, could someone just c**t up this thread and insult my genre of music and production technique? Thanks.
I personally think it's shit partly because they're not something unachievable by means available to a typical bedroom producer, unlike classic breaks. Using standard breaks to achieve that 90s "quotation" sampling effect is one thing (tho today, I'd prefer it done as an edit or something, not throughout the whole track), but using the same hits that everyone uses?

Most drums that keep showing up on all those crappy generic dnb releases nowdays, were some badass produced ones from some older dnb track, that everyobody and their dog has sampled and uses. I'm participating in most jungle production communities, and I'm 100% positive there are no standard dnb oneshot drums but those sampled off some older dnb record.

Your wisdom amazes me.

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:51 pm

HI

Couple of nice tunes - I think your on the right track!

Flipper.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:31 am

thanks, mate

cold c · Post by **cold c** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:58 am

Check Zero-G EZ Rollers Drum and Bass Producer, it has some downloadable demo breaks in acidized wav format on the site. Get something like that in combination with a beatslicer (like the one in the energyXT sampler (includes slicer), or pHATmatik Pro, or possibly Stylus RMX if you already own Recycle).

The MIDI file export in the eXT sampler and the MIDI part composer in energyXT can randomise the hits quite well. Of course, the sounds can be layered with hits from other sources as well.

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