How do YOU feel about your music being pirated?

[whyterabbyt]

fjell_strom quoth

I'll make this easy because complicated ain't cutting it.

And here was me thinking its because you prefer to put a snide ad hominem into every post.

I don't expect people to value.

Ambiguous statement. That 'making it easy' aint working much.

Are you saying you dont expect people to make assessments of value, or that you dont expect them to attach significant value to things. Or something else.

I enjoy when others value things the way I do. But I don't expect it out of anyone. Do you?

I dont generally expect people to judge the worth of things similarly or comparitively to the way I judge worth. Is that what you mean?

[munchkin]

How about a usb turd? The ultimate copy protection.

[fjell_strom]

Well, whyterabbyt, since I know you to be someone who just adores picking others' posts apart with a pair of holy tweezers, employing that laughable and thoroughly pretentious trademark blow-by-blow "quothing", (an utterly ostentatious practice of using some crap archaic form of language long dead...look at me, look at me!), at the end of which you always seem to have managed to secure yet another supreme logical victory (sweet! That's ten thousand in a row and counting!)), I thought I'd write you this post!

To be honest, the spirit of your posts troubles me most, as I feel, rather than really get down to the heart of matters, you are often only more than happy to instead simply do little more than attempt to rake another poster's comments over the coals in a looking-down-your-nose, I'm-certainly-going-to-take-points-of-for-spelling, judgemental, very evaluatory, criticising tone and manner. All too often, if a person were to attempt actually responding to even half the claims, contentions and "things I just found to be plain WRONG with your post" found in most of your stunningly anal digressions, these threads would launch directly into the stratosphere, never to return. You do so much contending the comments and statements of others that the lofty pleasure you take in doing so is quite palpable. And ugly. I can nearly see you reading this post, not thinking, "what is it he's saying?" but "how can I use all of or any parts of this against him in my crushing rebuttal?"

In short, your play-by-play quothing is galactically unhelpful to anyone or anything besides perhaps the fragility of your ego. It would take till bloody eternity to respond in detail and kind to all the horseshit you customarily decide you need to highlight, flag, or otherwise call into question. You seem to possess the uncanny ability to reduce these threads to eventual mush, where somehow the forest of the issue tends to go south somewhere amongst the trees of your insistance on becoming a referee hired by logic itself to blow your quothing whistle on all our transgressions.

I doubt you've ever realised how unhelpful all this handwaving of yours is, and while I rest tonight safe in the knowledge you may have a fantastic career ahead of you as a debate coach, I think you're a moron.

About the last post, specifically...do you really not understand my thoughts, or was the kick of telling me why you don't find them to be clearly stated too big for you to resist with the quothing gun? Because, if you really have to ask the questions you asked, sonny, I don't think there's much point in continuing. I don't say this because of an inability to respond to your scribbling-on-the-margin commentary; I'm saying that because the supply of red cards in your shirt pocket seem to be nearly as endless as your party-trick propensity in reaching for them.

[james0tucson]

How about a usb turd?

I'm going to have bad dreams now. Thanks.

[whyterabbyt]

fjell_strom quoth Well, whyterabbyt, since I know you to be someone who just adores[ picking others' posts apart with a pair of holy tweezers, employing that laughable and thoroughly pretentious trademark blow-by-blow "quothing", (an utterly ostentatious practice of using some crap archaic form of language long dead...look at me, look at me!), at the end of which you always seem to have managed to secure yet another supreme logical victory (sweet! That's ten thousand in a row and counting!)), I thought I'd write you this post!

I hate to trouble your petty little diatribe, but the section-by-section format is not an 'archaic form of language long dead", its a modern practice as engendered by Usenet, and I prefer it for its clarity and precision.

Of course, its much easier for you to attack the presentation of anything I say rather than the argument or points themselves.

And hell, it keeps the fans amused, dont it.

Or were you just going on about the use of the word 'quoth'. Thats an old joke and I aint changing it just because you get pissy about it.

To be honest, the spirit of your posts troubles me most, as I feel, rather than really get down to the heart of matters, you are often only more than happy to instead simply do little more than attempt to rake another poster's comments over the coals in a looking-down-your-nose, I'm-certainly-going-to-take-points-of-for-spelling, judgemental, very evaluatory, criticising tone and manner.

I find it amusing that you're trying to pass off precise responses in the specific context of what is being addressed as an avoidance of 'the heart of matters'. Not that I've seen much in the way of direct responses from you.

By the way, I almost never attack people's spelling or grammar unless they've done it themselves. However if there's ambiguity in how they've phrased things, I do address that, but that's about meaning.

All too often, if a person were to attempt actually responding to even half the claims, contentions and "things I just found to be plain WRONG with your post" found in most of your stunningly anal digressions, these threads would launch directly into the stratosphere, never to return.

I make very few claims, and when I do I back them up. I do however make contentions about other peoples. Especially when they fail to justify those things they pass off as factual. I presume that's the bit that pisses you off most; being challenged to validate what you are claiming.

You do so much contending the comments and statements of others that the lofty pleasure you take in doing so is quite palpable. And ugly.

I see. In your world, people dont get to contend the comments of others.

In short, your play-by-play quothing is galactically unhelpful to anyone or anything besides perhaps the fragility of your ego.

Quite incorrect. I get PMs and emails from people all the time who do indeed find it helpful to see a logical approach to some of the statements and comments posted here as 'factual' by those who claim to be right because they say they are right.

I prefer people who don't know for sure not to be misled by those more ignorant than themselves who do more shouting. Obviously for you that's less important than being offended by the format of someone's posts. But hey, its a big wide internet, and you're free to not bother reading my posts. Isn't that grand?


It would take till bloody eternity to respond in detail and kind to all the horseshit you customarily decide you need to highlight, flag, or otherwise call into question.

But it would take 3 minutes to make the original statement being addressed clearer and more logical in the first place.

You seem to possess the uncanny ability to reduce these threads to eventual mush, where somehow the forest of the issue tends to go south somewhere amongst the trees of your insistance on becoming a referee hired by logic itself to blow your quothing whistle on all our transgressions.

So you say. Funnily enough, some people seem to have no problem continuing a relatively straighforward conversational style in the meantime. Like shamman was until you

You ever heard of not reading the posts. At all. Or are you just making sure you get yourself noticed on your little moral highground.

I doubt you've ever realised how unhelpful all this handwaving of yours is

As I say, Ive been told it is helpful. Now who to believe. Ah f**k it, I'm quite happy enough the way things are. Adapt or die.

, and while I rest tonight safe in the knowledge you may have a fantastic career ahead of you as a debate coach, I think you're a moron.

Oh, and I now know you're one.

About the last post, specifically...do you really not understand my thoughts, or was the kick of telling me why you don't find them to be clearly stated too big for you to resist with the quothing gun?

Of course I dont 'understand your thoughts'. Im not actually psychic. So when Im unsure about what someone means, and I think its important to, I ask them. If you've got a problem with something as basic as being asked to explain what you mean, then your entire diatribe about 'ego' is seriously misplaced; you should have been talking to yourself.

Because, if you really have to ask the questions you asked, sonny, I don't think there's much point in continuing.

Now there's an absolute classic of that old favourite "if you dont know what I mean then Im not going to explain it to you".

What is it you're so scared of? Being clearly understood?

But funnily enough its always the same with people like you. Quite happy to generalise, quite happy to rely on ad hominem attacks, quite happy to be right just because you say your are, but can't actually a goddamn straight question without turning it into a meally-mouthed exuse not to say anything at all, in favour of the next new round of anything which doesnt address the subject at hand.
Pathetic.

I don't say this because of an inability to respond to your scribbling-on-the-margin commentary

Yes you do. Otherwise you would have answered a simple question in a straightforward way.

I'm saying that because the supply of red cards in your shirt pocket seem to be nearly as endless as your party-trick propensity in reaching for them.

Of course you are. Keep telling yourself that, and dont forget the handwaving and shouting when you want to distract people from noticing you can't actually deal with people not bowing down before your amazing wisdom and insight. <cough>

[shamann]

I find the quothing system a little hard to read when you fall on a blue square. Seems to be much easier on the charcoal.

[whyterabbyt]

Should I set a text colour as well? Sheesh, half the time I screw up the formatting anyway, and now I have to worry about whether its on an odd or even post.

[whyterabbyt]

Oh, and shammann, since this got derailed just as it looked like it might have got onto the 'what could we do thats positive' side of things, d'you reckon its worth pursuing that separately?

[Hovmod]

Should I set a text colour as well? Sheesh, half the time I screw up the formatting anyway, and now I have to worry about whether its on an odd or even post.

You could just double post every time

[whyterabbyt]

HovMod quoth You could just double post every time


I never thought of that

[herodotus]

I long for peace.

I used to enjoy these threads. Hell, I used to start them. But now they just make me sad.

I guess I must be getting soft in my old age.

[whyterabbyt]

You know, I was gonna post that twice, but sorta lost the will...

[shamann]

Oh, and shammann, since this got derailed just as it looked like it might have got onto the 'what could we do thats positive' side of things, d'you reckon its worth pursuing that separately?

Maybe, but you and I both know how quickly it's likely to devolve. Maybe wait until this thread dies.

Interesting bit about cottage industry-style distribution.

[whyterabbyt]

shamann quoth
Maybe, but you and I both know how quickly it's likely to devolve. Maybe wait until this thread dies.

True, and fair enough.

[fjell_strom]

Again, the master debater has lept into ring!

I love it. If only I had another lifetime to devote to grapling the genius of your half-page posts! Were I seriously to respond in length and kind to your short novel, do you think the issue of music piracy would ever be likely to be seen again? Sadly, because you're, well, you, anything I wrote would too likely only be stuffed down your holy cannon in preparation for return fire. Are you really jammed so far up your own hole that you fail to recognise your preference for debating fouls to issues?

Thank you for again correcting my post as though it were a homework assignment. As you know, this is what most people hope will happen to their posts.

And yes, my dear Watson, after blowing your hole for three paragraphs about God-knows-what, I meant the word "quoth". If it's any consolation, I thought you did a fantastic job of making a comedic ass of yourself anyhow.