need a cher-like vocoder effect

[soundaddik]

its prob an outdated effect but the occasion requires it. free or not i dont care, but the quality.

[sonicfire]

antares autotuner

[soundaddik]

i have autotune, but its tricky cranking out a desired effect. Any easier to use vocoder besides autotune?

[carlos]

I think there has been many discussions here about that infamous effect, search the forums, also sound on sound did an interview with the chap who will always be burdened with covering the crap voice of cher with that effect!

[soundaddik]

haha, yeah i know its a disturbing topic

[Voidoid Surrealist]

Actually the answer lies within a thread on KvR-themed t-shirts:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... e&start=30

[TechnoWeeniePas]

If I remember properly the problem was that there wasnt a simple filter/vocoder used. They used multiple things and settings and chopped all the takes up and put together the little snippets to get a unique sound.

[edit]
Ok so I was part right...they did only cut in the effect at sertain points and such but they used a single effect unit.

Here is the SOS link for the Google impaired:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb99/a ... cks661.htm

[soundaddik]

yeah i would figure so. autotune alone can't produce such an ear pleasing sound

[markroom]

k has any one actually recreated this effect- cos ive used autotune on pc's and never could-

is the hardware version much different-

is it bettere to use the vst version oppose to directx version sound wise????

[Notron User]

I've played around with OB Tune, a $39 dollar direct x varient of autotune--and got somewhat similar results (I'm not a 50+ year old woman).

Did you set the correction parameters to their lowest/most noticable levels and restrict the notes so that you'd wind up with the appropriate jumps between notes?

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[Stupid American Pig]

Can we start a new thread that is called "Using the Digitech Talker to acheive the Cher vocal effect"


FYI it was the Talker, the producers of that hideous song were interviewd in a 1999 issue of Future music.

[LBN]

That does it! I'm going to drive this thread into a tree!

[JackDark]

Here Damn IT:

"I played around with the vocals and realised that the vocoder effect could work, but not with the Korg -- the results just weren't clear enough. So instead, I used a Digitech Talker -- a reasonably new piece of kit that looks like an old guitar foot pedal, which I suspect is what it was originally designed for [see review in SOS April '98]. You plug your mic straight into it, and it gives you a vocoder-like effect, but with clarity; it almost sounds like you've got the original voice coming out the other end. I used a tone from the Nord Rack as a carrier signal and sequenced the notes the Nord was playing from Cubase to follow Cher's vocal melody. That gave the vocals that 'stepped' quality that you can hear prominently throughout the track -- but only when I shifted the the Nord's notes back a bit. For some reason, if you track the vocal melody exactly, with the same notes and timing, you hardly get get any audible vocoded effect. But I was messing about with the Nord melody sequence in Cubase and shifted all the notes back a fraction with respect to the vocal. Then you really started to hear it, although even then it was a bit hit-and-miss -- I had to experiment with the timing of each of the notes in the Nord melody sequence to get the best effect. You couldn't hear an effect on all the vocals by any means -- and on others it made the words completely impossible to understand!

There Damn It:

http://www.cherworld.com/library/view.p ... em=article

Now I want to know how to blip like Autechre and shred like Daft Punk next!

[No name]

I think there has been many discussions here about that infamous effect, search the forums, also sound on sound did an interview with the chap who will always be burdened with covering the crap voice of cher with that effect!

many would be an understatement