Living, Breathing & EATING (and drinking) the Hip Hop Li

[clueless]

Anybody remember them?

yeah, I used to have "Tricks of the Shade" before it was "liberated" from my flat along with a load of other stuff

[thehumanPlugin]

It was really funny when I saw them. The opening act was kinda like a techno/ rave group and they had all of these lasers and colored lights flashing during the set. When The Goats came on. They immediately said, "Turn those lights off, we're Hip-Hop, we don't go for that shit!"

It was classic!

Lady J - using samples with bands is great. I'm merely addressing anybody that thinks sampling should be done away with all together in Hip-Hop.

[Lady J]

For the record, Rap acts arent the only ones who have their own energy drinks. When I was in Thailand I learned that the legendary socio-political consciousness Thai supergroup, Carabao also has it's own energy drink.

For those who don't understand, imagine if Public Enemy were still big and touring the world and had an energy drink!

See:

http://www.eastlandfood.com/concert05.htm
http://www.carabao.net
http://www.carabaoinconcert.com

[o'malley]

You all should watch a movie called "Fear of a Black Hat"

It is a rap version of "This is Spinal Tap" and it's absolutely hilarious.

However, I would recommend watching Spinal tap before hand if you havn't seen it already, and If you don't know anything about the history of Gangsta Rap I would recommend watching a doucumentery called "Beef." That way you will get all the jokes in "Fear of a Black Hat"

[o'malley]

Also, you might want to listen to the N.W.A. albums... but not in front of the kids though.

[donkey tugger]

For the record, Rap acts arent the only ones who have their own energy drinks. When I was in Thailand I learned that the legendary socio-political consciousness Thai supergroup, Carabao also has it's own energy drink.

For those who don't understand, imagine if Public Enemy were still big and touring the world and had an energy drink!

See:

http://www.eastlandfood.com/concert05.htm
http://www.carabao.net
http://www.carabaoinconcert.com

Intriguing. I see you already have your own brand of sweets too;

[herodotus]

I have nothing against bands. I remember seeing The Goats back in the early 90's with a band! Anybody remember them? But I think what of you are missing is that Hip-Hop is based around sampling. Sampling is the basis and foundation of Hip-Hop. Working with a limited budget - "Shit I don't need a band, just give me stack of records a mic and a sampler" Kinda like the punk rock aesthetic. To take sampling away from hip-hop would be like taking the distortion pedal away from rock!

So you are against hip hoppers using real musicians?

What if they want to?

Are they being fake?

[Hink]

I have nothing against bands. I remember seeing The Goats back in the early 90's with a band! Anybody remember them? But I think what of you are missing is that Hip-Hop is based around sampling. Sampling is the basis and foundation of Hip-Hop. Working with a limited budget - "Shit I don't need a band, just give me stack of records a mic and a sampler" Kinda like the punk rock aesthetic. To take sampling away from hip-hop would be like taking the distortion pedal away from rock!

So you are against hip hoppers using real musicians?

What if they want to?

Are they being fake?

[No name]

You all should watch a movie called "Fear of a Black Hat"

It is a rap version of "This is Spinal Tap" and it's absolutely hilarious.

However, I would recommend watching Spinal tap before hand if you havn't seen it already, and If you don't know anything about the history of Gangsta Rap I would recommend watching a doucumentery called "Beef." That way you will get all the jokes in "Fear of a Black Hat"

First thing came to mind was when they were on stage and they had a "life size" replica of stone henge. Then the midgets topped it off.

How I see it, being a huge fan of hip hop since kriss kross (I know, it's just wrong but blame it on my older bro) I see it develping sort of like Rock from the early 80's to now. Rock had it's period where it was so commercialized and played out that you had men wearing make up and wearing flashy and tight spandex on stage. Rap is going through that period now, but I feel rap and hip hop are 2 different things. Hip hop is real, Hip hop very rarely shows it's head to an international community ( although each country has it's own hip hop community) I worked with a guy named "don furi", and this guy could blow away anybody in the commercial business of rap right now. Eminem is hip hop to me, not the side that talks about his mom and all, but that side that just flows (listen to 8 mile road, Lose yourself, etc.) Perhaps we will see a collapse of rap as we know it in a few years, maybe a hostile takeover by the grimey street hip hop heads . I truly hope for it, it's long overdue. However, I don't wanna see the real hip hop artists get signed to major labels, I just think the internet and the oppurtunity it poses, as well small companies that are well known (indie companies if you will) could get it started.

[o'malley]

[clueless]

Intriguing.

[stale bread]

I have no idea whether or not hip hop is the "new rock and roll".

But I do know that I have been working with several local hip hoppers who are very interested in working with real live musicians, instead of the heretofore universal drum machine/sequencer setup.

As one guy said it: "EVERYONE sounds like that.".

I don't know what this might mean in the long run, but it seems an interesting developement.

And nothing new about that. It's actually the new trend in Alternative Hip Hop to use a live band...

Ever listen to...

N.E.R.D
The Roots
Outkast?

to name a few...

But isn't it true that these 'groups' only use live musicians to replay already sampled loops of music that's already been recorded? That way they can circumvent paying royalties to the original musicians?

If they're recording original songs to vinyl, and then sampling themselves (ala portishead), then that would be cool-but I have yet to see anyone use a live band for doing anything except ripping off the original artists.

where did you get your information from huh?!

......the beastie boys

[stale bread]

I don't even care what people say about hiphop, I just want them to treat rock, and every other genre the same
way, we already know human beings are assholes, equality is the best we can hope for.