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dburgan · Post by **dburgan** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:08 am

What is the 'live' feature in eXT? I've heard people refer to this but have never seen it .... ?

Klemperer · Post by **Klemperer** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:22 am

It's an exciting new feature some of us still don't use much, but I think that will change... You can now choose between different modes, one of them being "live mode". Plastique has explained the first steps several times here in the forum, you can find his post in older threads here. To make it easier, Asseca and me have also included it in our experimental "FAQ"-type questions and answers. Find them HERE.
Those are the "first steps", it's question 10 under "basics":D

A great explanation of what it is about (putting some arrangements together and then playing them live with the live arrangement mode) comes from Caleb HERE.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:10 am

So from those explanations it appears that it is just some new feature for the dance market that has little relevance elsewhere. BTW, those are both great resources, well done guys!

maki · Post by **maki** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:34 am

if somebody could explane what man can do with livemode all those explanations would make sense

jorgen · Post by **jorgen** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:19 am

Its all about triggering parts of music in sync, using your midi keyboard and/or pc keyboard.

Id better make a tutorial...

cheers
jorgen

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:53 am

BONES wrote:So from those explanations it appears that it is just some new feature for the dance market that has little relevance elsewhere. BTW, those are both great resources, well done guys!

I don't think it's purely dance, but that's probably the most obvious use. I can imagine it being used quite nicely in a rock 'n roll jam session so long as the sequencer is controlling the tempo rather than a drummer.

I think EnergyXT already had quite a few features that allows it to be quite useful in a live situation (not that I've ever done that of course), but the Live Arranger just improves on it I guess.

One of the things I like is that I can dump a couple of different arrangement variations in the Live Arranger and activate tracks within the arrangements themselves in any combination I like, creating potentially new arrangements on the fly.

Say we have a standard verse arrangement with 3 variations and these are all laid out in the Live Arranger and you want to activate the kick in variation 1, the snare in variation 2 and the hats in variation 3 this is all do-able by hitting a key (all synchronised of course). This is a rather trivial example I guess, but it does allow you to experiment on the fly without having to copy and move things around every time you want to experiment.

Anyway - I thought it seemed useful.

I personally would like to see a Record Jam Session implemented that saves the arrangement in a buffer to copy to a brand new arrangement - maybe called "Jam Session". But that's me - I'm always greedy.

In any case Bones, can you elaborate on what you think would be a good idea for "live" improvements that might satisfy non-dance performers? It might be something that becomes part of a future version of EnergyXT.

Caleb

silicon/silicium · Post by **silicon/silicium** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:30 am

for me it really miss the start if above start feature we discussed before, but it's on the road to rule. on next update wave on live mode, it ll be ok.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:23 pm

Dont mind about Bones, Caleb. He's stuck in his ways, failing to realise that a feature for a program doesn't come with specified genre usage.

I've been using the Live mode to mix the ambient music that I make.

Klemperer · Post by **Klemperer** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:29 pm

jorgen wrote:Id better make a tutorial...
cheers
jorgen

That is for sure a good idea. But after the beginner's guide and as Caleb already makes such first-rate tutorials (a pretty unbeatable way of explaining things, I think, so wait until he'll be ready!) people seem to think:

"let Jorgen code and the users do the tutorials".

And we got NicFit, DarkStar, caleb...

Our FAQ, for example, cannot in the least replace a tutorial. Was never meant to be this way. But it will be helpful in other ways in the future (like for example Bones said!). How often did you search for a topic and found it was on page 17-109:D or you didn't find it at all?
Concerning the "live" topic. Plastique's explanations are very good for a start, so they are over at asseca's website. Simple as that. (But hard work to do, by the way, so an answer to my pm of yesterday wouldn't go amiss here, Jorgen

)

WHAT surely, and not the first time mentioned here, would be a really good thing in my opinion, Jorgen, is a kind of help like Tracktion has it. You go over a knob, you get help in a box

. And after you know all about EnergyXT - so not too soon - you can hide those messages.

Now back to your thread, people, I just wanted to answer dburgan's question here, not to kill your thread.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:41 pm

Andrew Vernon wrote:Dont mind about Bones, Caleb. He's stuck in his ways, failing to realise that a feature for a program doesn't come with specified genre usage.

I've been using the Live mode to mix the ambient music that I make.

Actually I'm quite interested in what he has to say. For years now I've been bitching about how great new sequencers come out and they don't seem to be in tune with progression-based music composition.

I'm wondering if this might have been what Bones was getting at but in a live context.

Midi-parts that can be cleverly transposed according to the chord you are playing for example. That would be cool!

I think most sequencers (not all of course) are designed not to fit the requirements of a progression-based composer. Doesn't mean you can't use all of them for this type of music but they don't exactly cater to your needs.

You have to look into programs like BIAB and such to get that sort of sequencer.

But I'm straying way off-course here.

Caleb

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:08 pm

Andrew Vernon wrote:Dont mind about Bones, Caleb. He's stuck in his ways, failing to realise that a feature for a program doesn't come with specified genre usage.

I would hope that if I went to see a live act, they would play the best possible version of each song, rather than wing it according to how they are being received at any particular moment. I would hate to think that I was being pandered to by an artist and it would certainly give the impression that they didn't have much of a vision beyond having everyone love them. Or is all the effort we go to to make our songs as good as they can be just a waste of time?

herr_prof · Post by **herr_prof** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:56 pm

BONES wrote: I would hope that if I went to see a live act, they would play the best possible version of each song, rather than wing it according to how they are being received at any particular moment.

Ive always wanted to be able to trigger my arrangements on the fly, but rather give them a little bit of the live feeling I get from playing an instrument in a band. If I wanted the best version of a song, I could just as easily play over a vox down cd mix. I want to make a song breathe, and if I went to see a band perform a note for note perfect version of their song, I would be technically impressed, but a little let down over the lack of ... something.

I have great hopes that xt will really become the living sequencer ive been wanting to play for 10 years, and pretty much have been waiting here every day watching it get closer to the how the nondance based music in my mind wants to be played.

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:04 pm

adds2one wrote:Nice pic Bunnyboy. Nice to hear of someone using eXT live. What does your music sound like?

a howling feedback storm with shouting

nah, that setup is a bit old, but is essentially what i use with me band, which sounds like a a howling feedback storm with shouting (and some f**ked-up samples and heavy bass/synths)

havnt got a setup for me own sounds sorted out yet

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:17 pm

Its all about triggering parts of music in sync, using your midi keyboard and/or pc keyboard.

Id better make a tutorial...

cheers
jorgen

Thanks Jorgen!

I'm still clueless on how to use live mode.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:32 pm

Gordon, have you looked at my manual entry for the Live Arranger?

It's not a tutorial - more a description of all the elements, but it should familiarise you with its capabilities reasonably well.

http://energyxt.calebblake.com/manual/B ... ements.htm

Caleb

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