AMD files lawsuit against INTEL
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 101 posts since 21 Oct, 2004
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According to the complaint, Intel has unlawfully maintained its monopoly by, among other things:
* Forcing major customers such as Dell, Sony, Toshiba, Gateway, and Hitachi into Intel-exclusive deals in return for outright cash payments, discriminatory pricing or marketing subsidies conditioned on the exclusion of AMD;
_____o According to industry reports, and as confirmed by the JFTC in Japan, Intel has paid Dell and Toshiba huge sums not to do business with AMD.
_____o Intel paid Sony millions for exclusivity. AMD's share of Sony's business went from 23 percent in '02 to 8% in '03, to 0%, where it remains today.
* Forcing other major customers such as NEC, Acer, and Fujitsu into partial exclusivity agreements by conditioning rebates, allowances and market development funds (MDF) on customers' agreement to severely limit or forego entirely purchases from AMD;
_____o Intel paid NEC several million dollars for caps on NEC's purchases from AMD. Those caps assured Intel at least 90% of NEC's business in Japan and imposed a worldwide cap on the amount of AMD business NEC could do.
* Establishing a system of discriminatory and retroactive incentives triggered by purchases at such high levels as to have the intended effect of denying customers the freedom to purchase any significant volume of processors from AMD;
_____o When AMD succeeded in getting on the HP retail roadmap for mobile computers, and its products sold well, Intel responded by withholding HP's fourth quarter 2004 rebate check and refusing to waive HP's failure to achieve its targeted rebate goal; it allowed HP to make up the shortfall in succeeding quarters by promising Intel at least 90% of HP's mainstream retail business.
* Threatening retaliation against customers for introducing AMD computer platforms, particularly in strategic market segments such as commercial desktop;
_____o Then-Compaq CEO Michael Capellas said in 2000 that because of the volume of business given to AMD, Intel withheld delivery of critical server chips. Saying "he had a gun to his head," he told AMD he had to stop buying.
_____o According to Gateway executives, their company has paid a high price for even its limited AMD dealings. They claim that Intel has "beaten them into 'guacamole'" in retaliation.
* Establishing and enforcing quotas among key retailers such as Best Buy and Circuit City, effectively requiring them to stock overwhelmingly or exclusively, Intel computers, artificially limiting consumer choice;
_____o AMD has been entirely shut out from Media Markt, Europe's largest computer retailer, which accounts for 35 percent of Germany's retail sales.
_____o Office Depot declined to stock AMD-powered notebooks regardless of the amount of financial support AMD offered, citing the risk of retaliation.
* Forcing PC makers and tech partners to boycott AMD product launches or promotions;
_____o Then-Intel CEO Craig Barrett threatened Acer's Chairman with "severe consequences" for supporting the AMD Athlon 64^(TM) launch. This coincided with an unexplained delay by Intel in providing $15-20M in market development funds owed to Acer. Acer withdrew from the launch in September 2003.
* Abusing its market power by forcing on the industry technical standards and products that have as their main purpose the handicapping of AMD in the marketplace.
_____o Intel denied AMD access to the highest level of membership for the Advanced DRAM technology consortium to limit AMD's participation in critical industry standard decisions that would affect its business.
_____o Intel designed its compilers, which translate software programs into machine-readable language, to degrade a program's performance if operated on a computer powered by an AMD microprocessor.
According to the complaint, Intel has unlawfully maintained its monopoly by, among other things:
* Forcing major customers such as Dell, Sony, Toshiba, Gateway, and Hitachi into Intel-exclusive deals in return for outright cash payments, discriminatory pricing or marketing subsidies conditioned on the exclusion of AMD;
_____o According to industry reports, and as confirmed by the JFTC in Japan, Intel has paid Dell and Toshiba huge sums not to do business with AMD.
_____o Intel paid Sony millions for exclusivity. AMD's share of Sony's business went from 23 percent in '02 to 8% in '03, to 0%, where it remains today.
* Forcing other major customers such as NEC, Acer, and Fujitsu into partial exclusivity agreements by conditioning rebates, allowances and market development funds (MDF) on customers' agreement to severely limit or forego entirely purchases from AMD;
_____o Intel paid NEC several million dollars for caps on NEC's purchases from AMD. Those caps assured Intel at least 90% of NEC's business in Japan and imposed a worldwide cap on the amount of AMD business NEC could do.
* Establishing a system of discriminatory and retroactive incentives triggered by purchases at such high levels as to have the intended effect of denying customers the freedom to purchase any significant volume of processors from AMD;
_____o When AMD succeeded in getting on the HP retail roadmap for mobile computers, and its products sold well, Intel responded by withholding HP's fourth quarter 2004 rebate check and refusing to waive HP's failure to achieve its targeted rebate goal; it allowed HP to make up the shortfall in succeeding quarters by promising Intel at least 90% of HP's mainstream retail business.
* Threatening retaliation against customers for introducing AMD computer platforms, particularly in strategic market segments such as commercial desktop;
_____o Then-Compaq CEO Michael Capellas said in 2000 that because of the volume of business given to AMD, Intel withheld delivery of critical server chips. Saying "he had a gun to his head," he told AMD he had to stop buying.
_____o According to Gateway executives, their company has paid a high price for even its limited AMD dealings. They claim that Intel has "beaten them into 'guacamole'" in retaliation.
* Establishing and enforcing quotas among key retailers such as Best Buy and Circuit City, effectively requiring them to stock overwhelmingly or exclusively, Intel computers, artificially limiting consumer choice;
_____o AMD has been entirely shut out from Media Markt, Europe's largest computer retailer, which accounts for 35 percent of Germany's retail sales.
_____o Office Depot declined to stock AMD-powered notebooks regardless of the amount of financial support AMD offered, citing the risk of retaliation.
* Forcing PC makers and tech partners to boycott AMD product launches or promotions;
_____o Then-Intel CEO Craig Barrett threatened Acer's Chairman with "severe consequences" for supporting the AMD Athlon 64^(TM) launch. This coincided with an unexplained delay by Intel in providing $15-20M in market development funds owed to Acer. Acer withdrew from the launch in September 2003.
* Abusing its market power by forcing on the industry technical standards and products that have as their main purpose the handicapping of AMD in the marketplace.
_____o Intel denied AMD access to the highest level of membership for the Advanced DRAM technology consortium to limit AMD's participation in critical industry standard decisions that would affect its business.
_____o Intel designed its compilers, which translate software programs into machine-readable language, to degrade a program's performance if operated on a computer powered by an AMD microprocessor.
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- KVRAF
- 3846 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
Yep, I can't get over the fact that newer Macs could've been AMD based instead of Intel based. Plain stupid. How does Apple justify the decision to put clearly inferior Intel chips into those new Macs? I would like to hear those reasons, but I bet it's got something to do with RIAA and Intel itself. I can't help the feeling there's some dark force behind it 
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.It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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- KVRian
- 1283 posts since 13 Nov, 2004
after what I went through this last few days trying to get an "upgrade" for better cpu overhead mac should have gone amd.
The amd 4000+ I now finally have working has allot more headroom than my intel 2.8 or.........get alload of this......the dual 2.7 flagship mac!
I'm serious, I put them all through the wringer......major.........same software............
AMD smoked em' all..........
The amd 4000+ I now finally have working has allot more headroom than my intel 2.8 or.........get alload of this......the dual 2.7 flagship mac!
I'm serious, I put them all through the wringer......major.........same software............
AMD smoked em' all..........
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- KVRAF
- 3846 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
And thank you for that very very much. Excellent work to finally have some real hands-on experience test results. Great post, man!eyeknow666 wrote:after what I went through this last few days trying to get an "upgrade" for better cpu overhead mac should have gone amd.
I'm serious, I put them all through the wringer......major.........same software............
AMD smoked em' all..........
It really should save heaps of money to many KVRians.Cheers!
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
wow, i thought this was business as usual. big biz gets what they want through bullying. will someone go after walmart next? is this the revolution?
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- KVRAF
- 3846 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
Huh? 
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[:lol:]It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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- KVRAF
- 2336 posts since 13 Oct, 2002 from Terra Firma
I hope intel get caned. They need a good thrashing to cool down their chips (the cheap shots are always the best! 
) They continuously force up cpu prices and f**k about with different cpu slots. Let's hope it's payback time.
But the judge has probably been bought by Wintel so it'll go the same route as the MS monopoly case and it will be business as usual a few years down the line.
) They continuously force up cpu prices and f**k about with different cpu slots. Let's hope it's payback time. But the judge has probably been bought by Wintel so it'll go the same route as the MS monopoly case and it will be business as usual a few years down the line.
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- KVRist
- 209 posts since 31 Dec, 2004
The intel processor has built brainwashing transmiter
which is activated via windows regedit.
The new I pods now run on intel chips and Linux is really owned by microsoft!
In case you don't realize, Intel, Microsoft and Apple basically own the Government! Good cause who needs AMD cpu, I don't want the japaneses spying on us!!!!!
which is activated via windows regedit.
The new I pods now run on intel chips and Linux is really owned by microsoft!
In case you don't realize, Intel, Microsoft and Apple basically own the Government! Good cause who needs AMD cpu, I don't want the japaneses spying on us!!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 2495 posts since 18 May, 2004 from ATL-USA
yeah, there's no room for competition in a free marketplace.
it's really about money
Does AMD even have a marketing strategy? Yeah somewhat
Do they make good chips? Of course
Why is Intel on top? Money
Who would you think spends more on R&D per year? Dunno
Who would you think spends more on Advertising per year? Intel
What is the better chip? Depends...
it's really about money
Does AMD even have a marketing strategy? Yeah somewhat
Do they make good chips? Of course
Why is Intel on top? Money
Who would you think spends more on R&D per year? Dunno
Who would you think spends more on Advertising per year? Intel
What is the better chip? Depends...
Anti-aliasing is for "synthmonk%ys".
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- KVRAF
- 3528 posts since 18 Apr, 2002 from British Columbia, Canada
it is really about time. i sure hope the win this time. intel has been acting like a f**king mob for years, and if they lose, they might actually be forced to fix some of the longstanding issues with their product instead of relying on shake-downs and intimidation to keep their market share. i am just surprised how long they have got away with it. i think that at this point with so many customers screaming for amd chips, that the people in charge of the big companies will welcome a subpoena so that they can be "forced" to tell what has been going on; then they will feel at least a little bit protected for further intel bullying 'cause they "don't have a choice".
hmmm... on second thought, the bad guys always win.
hmmm... on second thought, the bad guys always win.
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753 - KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
To me that just proves that intel knows it cannot create a superior product anytime soon. They just want to cash starve the underdog until they fall behind. That is one reason why I will always buy AMD chips. Intel is shady...