KVR Audio

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:54 am

Thanx gregman and welcome to KvR. I 've recorded something last night. It's still in 24bit wav so I have to keep the most interresting parts and convert it to mp3. Hope I 'll find the time to do it today.

BTW let me repeat it. I'd like to see recordings of all kinds : ampsims, PODs/VAMPs etc. or real amps like gregman did.

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:48 am

gregman wrote:Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier through a Mesa/Boogie Rectifier cabiner with V30 Celestions mic'd with a Shure SM57. Gibson Explorer>Boss NS-2 noise gate>Boss (keeley modded) SD-1>

Just slapped this together quickly but gives a good idea of what I consider to be a good heavy metal sound. http://home.comcast.net/~grwy/28jun05idea.mp3

Unless I'm mistake, there's a stereo effect on that recording?

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:54 am

Ok.

What you are going to end-up with here is not what people consider to be 'good' guitar sounds, but rather guitar sounds that are as 'good' as people are able to make them.

Big difference.

Plug-in designers etc shouldn't be aiming at sounds that emulate the sound of a rank-amateur using a Pod, but rather the sound of a correctly/well miced classic amp.

What would be more useful (if illegal) would be to post clips of records that people consider to have great guitar sounds.

pw · Post by pw » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:01 am

championrabbit wrote:Ok.
What would be more useful (if illegal) would be to post clips of records that people consider to have great guitar sounds.

not really. Then you will be getting guitar tracks that are not only amped, but also (heavily) compressed, eqed, doubletracked, reverbed, etc etc.

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:07 am

pw wrote:
championrabbit wrote:Ok.
What would be more useful (if illegal) would be to post clips of records that people consider to have great guitar sounds.
not really. Then you will be getting guitar tracks that are not only amped, but also (heavily) compressed, eqed, doubletracked, reverbed, etc etc.

Well there's going to be a massive compromise one way or the other isn't there?

Either there is going to be a thread of badly-to-averagely recorded clips, mostly using amp sims or not-particularly-well-miced amps displaying not what people want to sound like but rather what they are able to sound like, or else there will be a thread of stuff from records.

Also, the one clip that has been posted so far has been heavily effected anyway!!

Also 2, electric guitars are very rarely heavily compressed as you claim since guitar amps are themselves heavy compressors of audio signals.

So there.

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:08 am

I think it'll work as it is. It will be interresting at least. If champiorabbit (or anyone else) thinks that some recording that someone uploaded sucks he can just say it (politely please).
Note that this is not some sort of competition. We can upload just what we think sounds good made with what we have available. Then we can discuss, compare, suggest whatever. That's all. Nothing too serious or scientific.
Now go on champiorabbit and show us something

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:17 am

zeoy wrote: Now go on champiorabbit and show us something

I'll record something at the weekend if I can; we have a 2 week-old baby at home so maybe I won't have time...

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:21 am

championrabbit wrote:
zeoy wrote: Now go on champiorabbit and show us something
I'll record something at the weekend if I can; we have a 2 week-old baby at home so maybe I won't have time...

Understood! Mine is near 4 years old now and he's all over my recordings

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:29 am

zeoy wrote:
Understood! Mine is near 4 years old now and he's all over my recordings

The new one is the quiet one, it's the nearly-two year-old who's deafening!

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:38 am

OK I just uploaded something. It's an ampsim+cabsim+PSP springverb. Nothing else (not even a limiter on master). No more than 10 minutes work.
Nothing seriously tweaked. Tried to show what happens when guitar volume goes down and then up again.

Caution: CRT on+single coils=noize

The link: http://www.show.gr/zeoy/drive.mp3 (~3MB but slow server, sorry for that, if someone wants to host it let me know)

gregman · Post by **gregman** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:29 pm

Hi y'all - The clip I posted is NOT "heavily effected" as someone wrote. However, I did clone the track and panned L/R about 80%. I may have offset one of the tracks by 30ms as well. But really, thats it (at least as far as I remember). There is a Boss DD-2 delay in the loop of the amp as well but it's barely noticable.

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:58 pm

Don't worry gregman. The double track and delay effect are noticeable but the main amp sound is there

sangha · Post by **sangha** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:08 pm

championrabbit wrote:What would be more useful (if illegal) would be to post clips of records that people consider to have great guitar sounds.

I wouldn't mind hearing both, to see the difference between what people make and think sounds good, as compared to what the professionals do.

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:33 pm

Me too, but it'd be be dodgy legally I guess.

t-willy · Post by **t-willy** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:33 pm

gregman,

i really like that guitar sound. THAT is the kind of sound I'd like to emulate with a plugin.

lates

t-willy

Put your guitar sound here (many clips already)