Any Christians making music here?

[will.record.for.food]

Or Perhaps Pedro the Lion...Me Without You...

[tconrardy]

I'm a follower of Jesus Christ, but I don't listen to or play gospel music. It sounds like hip-hop and R&B and rock and alternative. I loved it when it sounded different.

well...theres quite a bit out there, and I like a lot of it..some of it sounds outright prog like some of Michael W Smith. Great synth work. I heard he went all softsynths now instead of a mountain of hardware keyboards. Twila Paris also has top notch synthisis stuff and production on her work. She almost sounds like Peter Gabriel as a woman , with deep ,meanings in the lyrics.Michael Card has a unique style in which he does not preach, but uses his music to teach deep truths. Great synth work too. So you can do *christian* music without it sounding preachy, but just telling your experiences and revealing truths as you understand them.

[xander]

Phil Keaggy -- Been listening to him since he was in The Squires & have *swiped* more than a couple of licks from him.

*Love Broke Through* -- classic Keaggy. Lots of people have dissed this song but the guy's a lyrics master for sure (I love inspired lyrics, no matter how they're inspired)

[king syrus]

not trying to burst your bubble, but the chinese invented clocks centuries before your beloved monks

[aMUSEd]

not trying to burst your bubble, but the chinese invented clocks centuries before your beloved monks

And polyphonic music has been invented (discovered) many times in many cultures - some way before western polyphony

[herodotus]

not trying to burst your bubble, but the chinese invented clocks centuries before your beloved monks

Can I have a source on that?

We are talking about the mechanism of weights/springs working against an 'escape' which is the essential invention that defined clockmaking from its origin until the first digital timepieces.

Certainly there have been countless methods, from sandglasses to burning ropes or candles, that people have used to measure the night hours, since before recorded history began.

Only one of these methods, however, led to the craft known as Clockmaking, which is what I was discussing.

This information, and the source material it derives from, can be found in Daniel Boorstins "The Discoverers" pp 36-46, 686-688.

[androidlove]

And polyphonic music has been invented (discovered) many times in many cultures - some way before western polyphony

yes but it wasn't real poly music. it wasn't sanctioned

[ouroboros]

I wrote and posted a song here a few months back called "I Wanna Be Funk Me". It was meant as a fun little ditty about how shallow some girls I know can be. It had these lyrics:

I wanna be Jesus, I'm wearin my crucifix..."

I wrote that line because I wanted to comment on some Chinerse girls here who wear a crucifix around their neck or as an earing but only as a fashion statement and not because they are Christians.

I asked a Christian friend of mine here at KVR to listen to my song and he hasn't spoken to me since.


The song in my sig, my latest, has the words:

"I must remember to unleash the hound,
to set free the beast from the unhallowed ground..."

It is a song I wrote about a man's deteriorating mental state, yet I have been repeatedly accused of being a 'Satanist" and a "Devil Worshipper" -- even though it had nothing whatsoever to do with anything religious.

I have no idea what happened to Christian tolerance, but it doesn't seem to be that much in evidence any more. People are too quick to judge and to hate, to stereotype and to shun.

I really like both those songs, ...xander, esp. I must remember It's sad that beauty is threatening when it doesn't fit into one's worldview. In the name of "holiness", people discard what is human. Ironic.

[abi]

javascript:emoticon(':(')although i find it a bit strange to read a thread called like this i think I can live with it. and it´s strange too to argue about whether chinese or christian people invented clocks or polyphony, as if it would make any difference.
but i only hope that those people who started and contributed to this thread would stay as tolerant as up to now if i searched for some muslims or jews who make some music. even if i was religious i hope it wouldn´t come to my mind...
but hey, don´t bother, go seperate!javascript:emoticon(':?')

[herodotus]

not trying to burst your bubble, but the chinese invented clocks centuries before your beloved monks

And polyphonic music has been invented (discovered) many times in many cultures - some way before western polyphony

But we have very little if any knowledge of the actual practice of musicians before western polyphony because there are no practical systems of notation to tell us what they did.

Unless of course there have been some recent ethnomusicological discoveries that I am unaware of, in which case I would be obliged if you could give me a reference link, or even a book title would be fine.

But in any case, I was referring to equal temperament and the system of "consonant" intervals that are used wherever people use keyboards, which is just about anyplace these days.

Certainly there are many ancient musical cultures that have venerable traditions of polyphonic musical practice. Bali and Java in particular come to mind.

But our systems of notation, tuning, intonation, intervals, scales, chords, counterpoint, key, and tonality derive from a theoretical structure that began in the medieval european world of the Roman catholic church, not in Bali or Java or India. This is a matter of accident, not because of merit. That is how history usually works: luck and the caprices of nature have much more to do with it than merit.

I myself feel much closer to the music of Bali than to most western classical stuff like Beethoven or Haydn or Brahms. I would love nothing more than to see the Balinese Ketjak when it was still a form of exorcism, or to go to Tenganan, the only place where the oldest form of gamelan music: gamelan selunding, can still be heard.

But if I were to try to write music that reflected this interest that I have , I would be using keyboards and notational systems that derive from western tradition. Not because I like that tradition, but because I like the tools it has given us.

[donkey tugger]

I always do a nice christmas song

[Lady J]

come on people.. everyone knows everything was invented by white christians. didn't you learn that in school? Guitar invented in Africa? Polyphony invened in China? Blasphemy in the eyes of our LORD JEEEEEZUZZ

[nuffink]

Jazz was invented by Acker Bilk in 1963.

[donkey tugger]

Jazz was invented by Acker Bilk in 1963.

I thought it was greils?

[herodotus]

I always do a nice christmas song

You are the funniest musician ever.

I mean it, this and that song "Timberlake" and a few more and a couple of home made videos and you could have the funniest indie rock album since "Mystical Shit"

"Donks is cool".

"Donks is way cool".

"He can bake the most delicious cake" etc.....