Any Christians making music here?

[Meffy]

what was the answer??

Jesus?

*hides*

[Alek]

I belive in god and make music, you can listen to some of it here www.amongspoons.com, listen to preach jam i would say that is christian inspired music, i think it is pretty interesting that somebody started a topic like this

[Wopelka]

Good lad.

yes, he was. and much more. one of my few hero.

[VicDiesel]

If Bach recycles the music of a church cantata for the coronation of some ruler, does that change the nature of the music?

he never re-used a theme composed for a religious piece in a profane one. always the other way around.

edit: it doesn't change your point, i know, but it was good to correct a fact that has a symbolic importance in Bach's mind.

Quick google:

"The Concerto No 5 in F minor, BWV1056 is the shortest of the keyboard concertos but one of the most popular, thanks to its beautiful Adagio. Bach also used this movement as the introductory Sinfonia to the Cantata BWV156, Ich steh’ mit einem Fuß im Grabe (‘I stand with one foot in the grave’)"

Ok, that's reusing an instrumental part. Which would argue that those are not religious, as opposed to the vocal sections.

[Wopelka]

If Bach recycles the music of a church cantata for the coronation of some ruler, does that change the nature of the music?

he never re-used a theme composed for a religious piece in a profane one. always the other way around.

edit: it doesn't change your point, i know, but it was good to correct a fact that has a symbolic importance in Bach's mind.

Quick google:

"The Concerto No 5 in F minor, BWV1056 is the shortest of the keyboard concertos but one of the most popular, thanks to its beautiful Adagio. Bach also used this movement as the introductory Sinfonia to the Cantata BWV156, Ich steh’ mit einem Fuß im Grabe (‘I stand with one foot in the grave’)"

Ok, that's reusing an instrumental part. Which would argue that those are not religious, as opposed to the vocal sections.

my own google reference (and yes, it is about vocal works):

(note that the terme "parody" means here "reuse of previous material, as it is explained in the introduction of the full article.

"It is often noted that many of Bach’s parodies remain in the realm either of the sacred or of the secular; those that cross over are transformations from secular works to church compositions, never the other way round. It is unclear, though, whether the direction of these transformations reflects Bach’s ideas about sacred versus secular music, or whether it is merely the consequence of his tendency to parody pieces usable only once (most of the secular works fall into this category) as works for recurring occasions (such as liturgical pieces)."

[luka2807]

intersting topic
I am (or at least would like to be) Christian, but my music (or whatever that is) could not be classified as religious music or something. It is just a bunch of misused frequencies between 20Hz and 20kHz

[Col.G]

I am a catholic.
Does that count?

[Stupid American Pig]

I am a catholic.
Does that count?

It depends on if the person you ask is southern baptist or not. I have had several tell me that Catholics are not Christian.

[xander]

I wrote and posted a song here a few months back called "I Wanna Be Funk Me". It was meant as a fun little ditty about how shallow some girls I know can be. It had these lyrics:

I wanna be Jesus, I'm wearin my crucifix..."

I wrote that line because I wanted to comment on some Chinerse girls here who wear a crucifix around their neck or as an earing but only as a fashion statement and not because they are Christians.

I asked a Christian friend of mine here at KVR to listen to my song and he hasn't spoken to me since.


The song in my sig, my latest, has the words:

"I must remember to unleash the hound,
to set free the beast from the unhallowed ground..."

It is a song I wrote about a man's deteriorating mental state, yet I have been repeatedly accused of being a 'Satanist" and a "Devil Worshipper" -- even though it had nothing whatsoever to do with anything religious.

I have no idea what happened to Christian tolerance, but it doesn't seem to be that much in evidence any more. People are too quick to judge and to hate, to stereotype and to shun.

I really like both those songs, ...xander, esp. I must remember It's sad that beauty is threatening when it doesn't fit into one's worldview. In the name of "holiness", people discard what is human. Ironic.

Thanks so much mate -- and you're right. It is very sad and ironic that the beauty of some types of flowers will never be witnessed because they grow in a different garden -- that a doctrine of love, peeace and charity can somehow make all the colors but a few disappear from one's eyes is inhuman.

If people are going to be Christians, I just wish they'd adhere more to the actual words and message of Christ than Jimmy Swaggart or Benny Hinn...

[xander]

not trying to burst your bubble, but the chinese invented clocks centuries before your beloved monks

And polyphonic music has been invented (discovered) many times in many cultures - some way before western polyphony

You sure? Polyphony and harmony seem to be pretty much the province of western music, where other cultures emphasize more rhythm and melody.

I think not. In China polyphonic operettas were being performed as long ago as 1500 years, in addition to the use of many multi-stringed polyphonic instruments.

Also, I think that bbefore Western explorers discovered Hawaii, the Hawaians sang in multiple-layered harmonies as did many of the Polynesian cultures.

[kaden]

Really, being christian is not something I'd be braggin' about if I was of the mind, what with being associated with so many ugly moments littering the history books and newspapers and all.

They do keep some lovely keyboards at their offices, though.

K

[Panda]

not trying to burst your bubble, but the chinese invented clocks centuries before your beloved monks

And polyphonic music has been invented (discovered) many times in many cultures - some way before western polyphony

You sure? Polyphony and harmony seem to be pretty much the province of western music, where other cultures emphasize more rhythm and melody.

I think not. In China polyphonic operettas were being performed as long ago as 1500 years, in addition to the use of many multi-stringed polyphonic instruments.

Also, I think that bbefore Western explorers discovered Hawaii, the Hawaians sang in multiple-layered harmonies as did many of the Polynesian cultures.

I think you are both right. It is true that polyphony and harmony go back a long time in China and Asia in general, but also that *in general* the role of harmony is more important in western music than in Chinese.
You can say Chinese music is rather modal, that is, more melody-oriented, and western music is more tonal, being more harmony-oriented. That of course doesn't mean that in modal music there's no room for harmony and vice versa...

[aMUSEd]

I think you are both right. It is true that polyphony and harmony go back a long time in China and Asia in general, but also that *in general* the role of harmony is more important in western music than in Chinese.
You can say Chinese music is rather modal, that is, more melody-oriented, and western music is more tonal, being more harmony-oriented. That of course doesn't mean that in modal music there's no room for harmony and vice versa...

Well maybe but don't forget what started this was the statement that Polyphony started with the Christian Church. The stuff about harmony, notation etc was added later.

[mao]

waht a boring thread...

I'm just wondering how mind-limitated are extreme believers in general... Do you really need to be in a group to feel yourself live? And must be your group the best? the real one? who cares about who invented clocks, and his religions !!! ...please...Keep music away from this...
Believe in what you want, God, Buddha, Jeova, Superman, Money... but remember that religions are made by human beings to control other human beings...
...story is not fiction...

[Sleepgolfer]

I am Antichrist...does that count?