Any Black People Making Electronic Music (Beside Hip-Hop)?

[allofdrab]

So, Kraftwerk were actually black? White makeup?

[wwwill]

house and techno were invented by black people.

one example: Frankie Knuckles, DJ at the warehouse club in chicago(late 70's-early 80's) , started adding sequenced drum machine loops over late disco/early proto-house songs creating a "harder disco" sound which soon became known as house music.

"warehouse club"-"house music" get it?

he then moved to NYC and the rest is history.

There are some really great proto-house songs that have always been pretty underground. heres a couple of my favorites:

Rude movements
http://turntablelab.com/real2/funkinthe ... vement.ram


Love money-perverted disco at its finest
http://turntablelab.com/real2/funkinthe ... emoney.ram

That's pretty accurate. I'm 35, born and raised in Chicago.

Frankie came from NY to Chicago to head up there Warehouse; which, along with other clubs such as the R2 Underground, the Muzik Box, the Playground, Sauer's, the Candy Store, etc., is the birth of HOUSE music. Rumor has it that the owners of the Warehouse really wanted Larry Levan who was doing the Paradise Garage, which was the birth of Garage.

Needless to say House music has split into many forms: progressive, drum'n'bass, techno, trance, jungle, tribal, 2-step, etc; most of these forms can be traced back directly to a Chicago singer/producer/label/artist. Some will tell you that TRUE house music is dying. Everything listed above is thriving.

It amazes me how many people from around the world would like to come to Chicago, to party at the "Mecca" of house music. Anyone traveling here now has missed the boat. The music scene is nowhere near what it was 10-15-20 years ago, depending on which generation you ask. The clubs have become largely consolidated and homogenized under club owners and promoters. For me I often feel like I'm going to the same party whenever I got to various clubs. There are some exceptions to this rule but to really get a good feel for what parties where like you need to find someone thowing a private thing in a loft somewhere. On any given night you can run into the likes of Glenn Underground, Anthony Nicholson, Mark Grant, and many others that feed the music scene. During the summer Chicago has a Summer Dance Festival that is a nice thing, although some of the DJs aren't necessarily playing my style of music. In fact here's this year's lineup:



Every Weds from 6pm-9:30pm, in The Spirit Of Music Garden (located @ Michigan & Balbo)
FREE!!!!

Weds. 6/15
PAUL JOHNSON & MAURICE JOSHUA

Weds. 6/22
JEFF MILLS & MIKE DEARBORN

Weds. 6/29
LEGO/ JESSE DE LA PENA

Weds. 7/6
GLENN UNDERGROUND & CRAIG ALEXANDER

Weds. 7/13
RON CARROLL & DJ JM3

Weds. 7/20
MARK GRANT & OSCAR MCMILLAN

Weds. 7/27
DJ SUPERPITCHER & MAZI

Weds. 8/3
ANDRE HATCHETT & JOE SMOOTH

Weds. 8/10
MARSHALL JEFFERSON & JESSE SAUNDERS

Weds. 8/17
RON TRENT & RICH MEDINA



To get to the original post there are lots of people making lots of dance music. It will be harder to find House music, most of which is made by black or latino people. I'm no racist so please don't take my statement that way. One of the things about music is that it should be a way to unite people, like most dance music does. It's one of the problems I have with the average hip hop artist: My whip, my gold, my hoes are all better than everyone elses.

Sorry to wander about the subject.

[The Chase]

ishkur's an asshole that is good at flash. It sucks because if he wasnt such an opinionated bastard he could of put something together that was more open minded and valuable

[munchkin]

house and techno were invented by black people.

one example: Frankie Knuckles, DJ at the warehouse club in chicago(late 70's-early 80's) , started adding sequenced drum machine loops over late disco/early proto-house songs creating a "harder disco" sound which soon became known as house music.

"warehouse club"-"house music" get it?

he then moved to NYC and the rest is history.

There are some really great proto-house songs that have always been pretty underground. heres a couple of my favorites:

Rude movements
http://turntablelab.com/real2/funkinthe ... vement.ram


Love money-perverted disco at its finest
http://turntablelab.com/real2/funkinthe ... emoney.ram

If we're going to categorise, to be precise, gay black people created the first house tracks. But without disco, hi-energy, uk and german synth music and electro that was made by a mix of black and white, gay and straight people there would be no house music. Music never belongs to one group of people. It's influences are drawn from many different quarters.

If you listen to the mix tapes of the DJ's who were playing the first house music on chicago radio you'll find that it was mixed with hi-energy from the UK and US electro. The house DJ's used to showcase this music at gay pride in Chicago.

Some great early house mixes:

http://deephousepage.com/mixes.php

[soulkraka]

who cares about ishkur anyways.....if you want to know the history of these types of music just ask around. Thats what I did. Its not like all the originators are dead or something.

I've met Juan Atkins in person and Mark Farina used to DJ at some clubs my friends and I used to throw in LA. Mark is not exactly mr old school but he was born and raised in chi-town and he knows a bunch of people that were there at the beginning.

BTW Farina smokes A GANG of weed before he goes on LOL. Dont know if he still does though, this was a while back.

[John Vulich]

So, Kraftwerk were actually black? White makeup?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing myself. How about Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze too?

[The Chase]

So, Kraftwerk were actually black? White makeup?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing myself. How about Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze too?

Bob Moog?

[soulkraka]

So, Kraftwerk were actually black? White makeup?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing myself. How about Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze too?

well you can keep tracing everything back as far as you like. was hip hop invented when rappers delight came out on 12"? did kool herc and bambaataa invent it or was it the drummers that played those funk breaks to begin with?

As far as Im concerned hip hop started with herc and bambaataa because thats when the scene, culture, and name were solidified.

same thing with house and techno.

music just keeps evolving into new forms and at a certain point it sounds different enough to "merit" a new name. Its too bad that seems happens everyday now instead of when its really deserved.

[wwwill]

To be presise gay black people created the first house tracks but without disco, hi-energy, uk and german synth music that was made by a mix of black and white, gay and straight people there would be no house music. Music never belongs to one group of people. It's influences are drawn from many different quarters.

If you listen to the mix tapes of the DJ's who were playing the first house music on chicago radio you'll find that it was mixed with hi-energy from the UK and electro. The house DJ's used to showcase this music at gay pride in Chicago.

Some great early house mixes:

http://deephousepage.com/mixes.php

Very true. Early Chicago mixes were filled Yaz, John Rocca & Freez, Yello, Kraftwerk, Africa Bambaataa, etc.. It was all considered dance music.

In fact the label house music moreso expressed a lifestyle. You could to the Box and hear Ron Hardy playing Doug E. Fresh's The Show or the Chicago Bears Superbowl Shuffle.

[McLilith]

Ishkur's yer man. Often factually suspect, usually entertaining.

edit:- Sorry 3*s. You got there first.

He might be the man, but I think that web page is horrible! I don't like pages that assualt my ears with sudden unexpected loud sounds. I happen to have something a bit larger than your average soundblaster with cardboard flat-panel speakers attached to my PC.

Why can't webmasters learn to NOT BLAST the ears off their visitors in the first milliseconds of their arrival????

If anyone else goes to that site, make sure you don't have your volume turned up very much.


thanks anyway,
McLilith

[nuffink]

So, Kraftwerk were actually black? White makeup?

Yeah I was thinking the same thing myself. How about Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze too?

Bob Moog?

Was it house or techno that Bob Moog and those krautrockers invented?

[tetraplan]

So, Kraftwerk were actually black? White makeup?

No, but Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddy Fowlkes and Blake Baxter are.
And Kenny Larkin.
And Scan 7. They have the right. To get Down. Tonight.
Jeff Mills, Rob Hood, "Mad" Mike Banks, DJ Bone, Mike Grant, all have the right. To get down. Tonight.

Groet, Erik

[TVD]

house and techno were invented by black people.

Inventing house sounds likely, but techno? Can you explain how that happened? I really don't know its early history, to be honest. Please, tell me more.


thanks,
McLilith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno_music

[munchkin]

The thing I love about early house is that it was so positive. This may sound corny now in the modern cynical, callous and money grabbing world we live in today but house music did bring black, white, gay and straight people together. It was about sharing a good time and having fun. The club scene that house spawned changed our culture. The incredible negitivity and commercialism in music today makes this notion seem idealistic and naive but it did exist at the time. I wonder if that type of vibe will ever return?

[TVD]

The thing I love about early house is that it was so positive. This may sound corny now in the modern cynical, callous and money grabbing world we live in today but house music did bring black, white, gay and straight people together. It was about sharing a good time and having fun. The club scene that house spawned changed our culture. The incredible negitivity and commercialism in music today makes this notion seem idealistic and naive but it did exist at the time. I wonder if that type of vibe will ever return?

And what about hip-house?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_house