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Sturgeon · Post by **Sturgeon** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:43 am

I mentioned this some time ago, but now I know slightly more about it.

If I freeze a multi out vsti midi track everything works perfectly (I'm operating at 32bit/96kHz with 8 outputs).

If I save the song with the frozen tracks, close the song, shut down the PC and reboot, when the song is reloaded I get massive audio distortion after a few bars have played back. If I unfreeze everything is normal again.

I just found out that If I let the reloaded song with its frozen tracks play through once with the sound off, the second and subsequent playbacks are perfect! This seems to be similar to the situation with one of the "test sa" progs a while ago, perhaps there could be a similar cure?

I'm pleased I found a workaround, as freeze is such a quick way to get the cpu back, and more convenient than render if the midi track is not quite finished. Perhaps this only happens at this bit depth/sample rate?

No other audio problems here, no crackles at all in normal playback.

Superb audio quality!

eXT rules

s.

jorgen · Post by **jorgen** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:45 am

I just found out that If I let the reloaded song with its frozen tracks play through once with the sound off, the second and subsequent playbacks are perfect! This seems to be similar to the situation with one of the "test sa" progs a while ago, perhaps there could be a similar cure?

fixed

jorgen

Sturgeon · Post by **Sturgeon** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:30 am

Thank you Jorgen!

The half human / half developer is a genius (3hrs. 2 minutes from report to fix!):hail:

s.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:45 am

Yes indeed he is

Sturgeon · Post by **Sturgeon** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:19 pm

Yee Haar

Freeze multi outs is working like a dream

Thanks Jorgen

Lawnmower Of The Damned · Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:52 am

This is one of the main reasons why I've decided to buy XT in the near future. Jorgen's support is legendary.

ddummer · Post by **ddummer** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:39 am

2 Quick question:

If I freeze a track eXT render the track
and turn off the vsti on the selected track.

If I un-freeze all it put you back to before
but it does NOT turn on the VSTi in the mixer.

Should it be like that?

Also If I freeze a track,un-freeze and freeze
again it keeps adding takes in my sample folder.

Shouldn´t the old one get deleted?

//Daniel

Sturgeon · Post by **Sturgeon** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:53 am

I think it is fine this way. It is more important that it turns the vsti off so you save cpu. Not too hard to turn it on agan

If you unfreeze, save and close, it deletes all the freeze audio for the track.

Cheers,

s.

Pädy · Post by **Pädy** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:28 am

I think it is fine this way. It is more important that it turns the vsti off so you save cpu. Not too hard to turn it on agan

Nonsense. Of course it should turn it back on again. That's part of the whole point about freezing.

MRT · Post by **MRT** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:58 am

Yea! Frozen tracks with no crackles. Seems to be fixed here.

MRT

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:58 am

Yeah I have to agree. It makes no sense not to turn the VSTi back on automatically.

As for the freeze audio tracks themselves. I don't mind if they stack up a bit as long as EnergyXT cleans them up on closure.

However, it wouldn't hurt for the freeze process to perform its own cleanup with each use. It's such a tidy program already, it seems almost out of place that it would leave such a mess to clean up at the end of a given session. You might freeze and unfreeze many many times before closing EnergyXT. That might be a big mess.

Caleb

Sturgeon · Post by **Sturgeon** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:46 am

Pädy wrote:
I think it is fine this way. It is more important that it turns the vsti off so you save cpu. Not too hard to turn it on agan
Nonsense. Of course it should turn it back on again. That's part of the whole point about freezing.

I don't think that turning the vsti back on is important. If I unfreeze and can't hear a track, it is a queue to turn the vsti power back on.

Not drastic. Not nonsense. Not important to me.

Far more important is that Jorgen has implemented a superb freeze feature that retains the multi out routing of my vstis in my surround mixes, with pristine 32bit/96kHz sound quality.

I'm sure there are other issues far more worthy of Jorgens attention than this.

You are coming across like a grumpy old Troll Pady

s.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:50 am

I agree also that the freeze functionality is magnificent in eXT.

Caleb

ddummer · Post by **ddummer** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:34 pm

I agree from one track at a time freeze point of view
but let´s say that you freeze 16 tracks here and there a perform 'un-freeze all' while you got some
tracks already turned off for various reasons then
you might have a mess of knowing what should be on
and off afterwards....

Again no biggy but to me it makes sense to restore
a track to the state it was at the freeze point...

//Daniel

Pädy · Post by **Pädy** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:31 pm

If I unfreeze and can't hear a track, it is a queue to turn the vsti power back on.

I'm pretty certain, that Jorgen did not intend this behaviour - so it's a bug. One that is probably easy to fix anyway.
So, I don't see the point of dismissing this issue with your argument. Bugs should be fixed when they raise their ugly heads.

You are coming across like a grumpy old Troll Pady

Oh, I am from time to time.

Cheers, Pädy

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