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Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:52 am

The usual way of doubling guitar tracks without actually re-recording the other takes (which is the best method anyways to get a really fat sound) is to pan them and shift one of the two a few milliseconds. To get even better results you may want to try different EQs on the two. However, very often this method might result it some sort of "static chorus" or whatever.
As said, really fat guitars are rerecorded. Of course, this requires some playing discipline for proper results.

_niko_ · Post by **_niko_** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:18 pm

ok, point taken

I really meant to use different amp sim settings for the two tracks, but messed up...

anyway I updated the clip, so it is stereo now (though still not really doubled)...

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:29 pm

_niko_ wrote:ok, point taken

I really meant to use different amp sim settings for the two tracks, but messed up...

anyway I updated the clip, so it is stereo now (though still not really doubled)...

It's not so much the eqing/amp sim/sound of the second (copied/doubled) track as the timing; the way that two (doubled) tracks behave in acoustic terms when they differ slightly in timing produces a wonderful thickening effect.

There's really nothing that acheives the same result as playing the same part twice and panning them to taste.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:08 pm

The Guitar Port tones are great !
cbenci good playing too.

Here some takes from my upcomming VST,
played by various KVR people.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/rockm ... _music.htm

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:59 pm

here's one sample...it's starts with very little volume out of the guitar to wide open in the end. Ignore the sound effects, the song will someday be about a castle (I hope, if I ever finish it) the sounds you hear are footsteps and a drawbridge opening (that' why the organ gets louder, it's suppose to be in the castle, the more the door opens the louder it gets)...

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:13 pm

Midiworks wrote:The Guitar Port tones are great !
cbenci good playing too.

Here some takes from my upcomming VST,
played by various KVR people.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/rockm ... _music.htm

Your clip site sucks.

You're planning on selling your VST, yes?

Sort the site out.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:18 pm

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:26 pm

Midiworks wrote:

Yeah, sure.

When you have a site that works properly then you can imply that I'm a nutter...

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:32 pm

Since you are the first of a few hundred...

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:43 pm

Midiworks wrote:Since you are the first of a few hundred...

I take it all back!

Your site is a glowing example of professionalism!

j_T · Post by **j_T** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:57 pm

championrabbit wrote:
Midiworks wrote:Since you are the first of a few hundred...
I take it all back!

Your site is a glowing example of professionalism!

By now I'd really like to hear an example from you

Regards,

Tommy

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:24 pm

j_T wrote:
championrabbit wrote:
Midiworks wrote:Since you are the first of a few hundred...
I take it all back!

Your site is a glowing example of professionalism!

By now I'd really like to hear an example from you

Regards,

Tommy

And I shall post something; it'll be the sound of a valve amp and 1x12 cab into a mic.

It will be rough.

Whether it's the best recording of a guitar in the history of recording, or pure white noise doesn't change anything.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:24 am

The disclaimers, already?

Greg

xander · Post by **xander** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:44 am

Really nice sounds guys!

Nice to hear so many good guitarists in here!

I'd post something but the last time I did I got trashed for it.

Great thread zeoy & nice playing too mate!

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:02 am

Personally, while they aren't bad, I think the Guitar Port tones suffer from the same symptom the POD is suffering from: Too much low mud frequencies (the Pod Pro/XT seem to be better). Funny, it's the same with the VAmp, just not as drastic.
I've got some patches with the bass knob literally turned to 0, another bit of lowcut on the mixer... and yet I often apply some further lowcut while mixing.
Seems to be valid for a lot of the highgain amp models.

Put your guitar sound here (many clips already)