Miroslav Philharmonik Pre-Orders Open!!!

[g3g4g5]

Wow! This really is exciting. I think the combination of the great Miroslav sounds with the smart design of the IK/Sonic Reality/Squids people will make this product excellent! I am glad that I preordered but the current and future prices are still great values.

[Squids]

On including an element of CSR, I merely voted for it. I can't take the credit. But, I too am glad that it is in there on top of the enormous value of the library and the rest of the plug-in. Not only that but also having send fx is just awesome for this product.

The sound list on line still isn't even the complete one because it doesn't even include the child and combi presets yet. Those will be up soon as well as some demo riffs of individual sounds in action. Check back at least once a week if not more on www.philharmonik.com for more updates. This is a HOT one for us! In fact, some people have said they thought the demo links or dead or down but actually they're not. The site is just getting hit HARD! Hang in there. Thanks for continuing to try. We went to a lot of trouble to make those demos.

To answer some more questions... some of the names were things in various languages that were notes from Miroslav himself. We just kept them. But, LP is our abbrev for Loop. Sul ponty I believe is played at the bridge. Sordino is muted. There will be a key in the sound manual. Don't worry.

The thing about loop vs. non-loop is interesting. Miroslav had always intended not to offer it looped but then people all wanted it to sustain forever so he did a version 2 of his library with loops and other tweaks in the sampler. We stayed consistent with his vision about the content and agree that it is just easier to sound more natural using the non-looped material (even though we also offer even more looped material too), especially for people who might not know the properties of the real orchestral instruments enough to not be spoiled by ever-sustaining loops (if you're going for realism that is). For instance, a string cannot sustain forever without a new bow strike. A wind or brass instument can only sustain until one runs out of breath. So, if it runs out naturally (and you have the tail which is nice) then you HAVE to restrike and that will give you automatically more realism. This is why the non-looped material is presented as the MAIN stuff and for those that DO want to have sustains that last forever you can then go one folder deeper into the looped material. Of course, the staccatos and short notes aren't looped, just longer sustains, legatos, tremolos etc.

I love the way this is organized because it makes you try first to use the natural sound of the instrument but if you NEED to you can always go in and grab a looped version. Another cool thing that can sometimes be done is controlling the tempo of the new stretch on some sounds to get interactive duration control. This is something that no other orchestral product offers and it is because of the ST2 engine that we are able to pull it off (not all the time but in a lot of great cases). So, you can be in the middle of using the non-looped version and potentially lengthen a note's duration AS you are playing if you know you want it to last a little longer. What is cool is that this slowing down of the actual bow speed on a string is similar to the ACTUAL slowing down of the speed one would need to do on a real string instrument for it to last longer before the next bow strike. Think about that! Pretty cool huh? Bells and whistles like THAT are icing on a VERY good cake in the first place. I mean, just getting a $4,000 library, a $400 class reverb (ok without all of the controls but the SOUND of a high end studio reverb), a sample engine plug-in for every platform all for less than $500 is already great. But, add in some unique things that no orchestral product has offered before? Priceless. (so pull out your MasterCard... just kidding).

I am the hype machine. Don't mind me.

[telebunke]

Sul ponty I believe is played at the bridge. Sordino is muted. There will be a key in the sound manual. Don't worry.

Cool, thanks. And I lookded sul ponte up in one of my music dictionaries in the meanwhile and you're right. It means playing close to the bridge.

Then, of course there is the articilation
Al Dente
which means playing the strings with your teeth.

tele

[Kim Lajoie]

Then, of course there is the articilation
Al Dente
which means playing the strings with your teeth.

tele

Jimi Hendrix on Violin... that would be cool. I once worked with a clarinet player who's playing reminded me of Jimi Hendrix. Insane, interplanetary, ripping lead solos...

It goes even louder if you turn up the volume!!!

-Kim.

[don1thedon]

Just couldn't resist

... and another to the harmonygardens foundation fund!

[DevonB]

Sul ponty I believe is played at the bridge.

Sul ponticello is bowing on or near the bridge, correct. Sul tasto is bowing on or near the fingerboard.

Devon

[Caleb]

I keep wishing that Miro had already arrived!
I'm trying to imagine a setup with ST2XL, SS2, Studiophonik and Philharmonik.

That would be pretty amazing don't you think?

I possibly won't get Studiophonik myself but settle for SS1/SS2, ST2XL and Philharmonik along with my treasured WusikStation and the Ultimate Drums Kit from SR.

Life is bloody marvellous!

Caleb

[telebunke]

Sul ponticello is bowing on or near the bridge, correct. Sul tasto is bowing on or near the fingerboard.

Devon

Now, we're all getting experts on naming articulations.
My dictionary says that sul ponticello can also be called ponticello (without the sun)

It seems, I also have something about marcato that I don't exactly understand.
I though that marcato would be playing with quite a strong attack, but doing a long note as opposed to staccato where you would keep it short.
But SR Symphony Strings contains Marcato patches that are short, whereas I got marcato patches in other sound libraries and they are long.?!
So, what is the official definition of marcato, then?

tele

[Scant]

So Squids,

Are you saying that CSR in Philharmonik will not have controls, with just one or two presets...or are there less controls compared to the full thing, but you can tweak it to your liking.

That's what I meant by scaled down in my earlier post. I wasn't refering to the quality...I am 100% sure you wouldn't do that to us.

-Duane

[Kim Lajoie]

It seems, I also have something about marcato that I don't exactly understand.
I though that marcato would be playing with quite a strong attack, but doing a long note as opposed to staccato where you would keep it short.
But SR Symphony Strings contains Marcato patches that are short, whereas I got marcato patches in other sound libraries and they are long.?!
So, what is the official definition of marcato, then?

tele

Marcato (or "marked") means the note should be emphasised - particularly by playing with a stronger attack. Marcato notes may be staccato or sustained. Staccato notes may be marcato but they don't have to be.

I studied composition at University, but I don't know nearly enough about classical orchestration as I should or I would like. I'm looking forward to getting back into some orchestral writing...

-Kim.

[vic_france]

Marcato (or "marked") means the note should be emphasised - particularly by playing with a stronger attack. Marcato notes may be staccato or sustained.

I think the idea is, in sampling terms, that the reason the marcato samples are short, is because they are merely the attack portion of the sound, and are intended, if necessary, to be layered on top of a legato sustain sample. This is very effective if the marcato layer has a very high velocity sensitivity.. play lightly and you hear the start of the legato sample, play progressively harder and the Marcato attack becomes more and more audible. It's also not too demanding on polyphony, because (on most samplers, anyways!), the voice gets freed as soon as the short sample has reached its end.

[starblue]

When is this introductory price offer going to be gone? Also are there any crossgrade deals for other orchestral library owners?

Oh and also are there any demos with the choir?

[telebunke]

When is this introductory price offer going to be gone?

Sooner than you think, so better buy it now.
Squids did not exactly say, but a time span of "during summer or end of summer" was mentioned.
So better oder now or until the end of August, I'd say.

tele

[Derek up North]

When is this introductory price offer going to be gone?

Sooner than you think, so better buy it now.
Squids did not exactly say, but a time span of "during summer or end of summer" was mentioned.
So better oder now or until the end of August, I'd say.

tele

Hope it's end of August - need one more payday (well, need two more actually but one more plus some flexible financing and I'm there!).

Regards,

Derek.

[harmony gardens]

Just couldn't resist

... and another to the harmonygardens foundation fund!

Thanks don1thedon!

I've been studying the pictures of the GUI, and have to say it's beautiful!! If we follow our logic tree here, if Philhamonik is based on Sampletank 2.1, and includes the CSR Reverb, then ST2.1 should include it also, correct??

It also leads me to a question,,, what is the difference between Tremelo and Vibrato??