brand names I'll never buy

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I'll never buy Jo Brand.

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what is Jo Brand anyhow

[freeztar]

DELL - Unless you speak Hindi, the customer service is difficult to understand. My motherboard died exactly two days after my one year warranty expired. Even after the senior tech rep told me that when a motherboard dies, it slowly goes out over several months, they would not replace it. My brother's dell laptop's keyboard broke two months after the year warranty. My friend's dell shipped with a defunct wireless adaptor. If you get down and gritty on the components inside, you will find them to be the lowest quality around, hence the price savings.

Bank of America - I actually had one of the senior reps scream at me over the phone, even though I had not even raised my voice. They've cheated me again and again and since switching to Wachovia, I am much happier.

McDonalds - Corporate world takeover and sub par fodder make this a no-fly zone for me.

There's more, but drawing a blank right now...

[flugel45]

I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Monster Cable for their ridiculous lawsuits done ostensibly to "protect" their name.

As far as I'm concerned, they can have the name and it's now their reputation too.


JD

[Gregjazz]

I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Monster Cable for their ridiculous lawsuits done ostensibly to "protect" their name.

As far as I'm concerned, they can have the name and it's now their reputation too.

JD

Yeah, I don't buy Monster Cables either because of those lawsuits. I don't care how good their cables are, I'm not buying from them anymore.

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I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Monster Cable for their ridiculous lawsuits done ostensibly to "protect" their name.

As far as I'm concerned, they can have the name and it's now their reputation too.


JD

actually I think you'll find those lawsuits were not exactly as they were reported...we went through this before and Monster cable according to those who sued them in order to pre-empt a lawsuit really didn't file that many suits, they filed requests for more time to investigate. One of the few actual lawsuits they actually filed was against Disney for Monster inc. In that case it was cut and dry, Disney should of gotten permission first but they settled out of court having admitted their err.

The whole thing that made it public was a guy making snowboarding videos, and it was monster something. He used it to gain attention to his snowboarding video and not very well...pre-emptive lawsuits never work.

I fully support Monster Cable, use it, love it, wouldn't part with it. Like I say the lifetime warranty alone makes it worth it. So you know if I sound like a saleman for monster cable that's because I sold monster cable for years...sometimes things are not always as they seem and can be urban myths.

People who believe the myths will look at statistics that do not show the whole picture. When you have a trademark you have the right to defend it...sorry that's how it works...more times then not Monster decided it wasn't infringement and dropped it...but that part never gets reported..

[The Chase]

all monster cables have a lifetime warrenty? i always thought they were overpriced but not with a lifetime warrenty.

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here is something from the guy that made the videos that started the stir...as you see he admits it was bull...the reports of the Monster seats in Fenway ended up with Fenway donating seats for CHARITY..yeah monster sucks...giving great seats to the poor

Durango, Colo. (Ski Press)-The following is an open letter from Snow Monster President Jack Turner regarding his reported dispute with Monster Cable:

“Noel Lee, the founder and president of Monster Cable and I have been in serious but cordial discussions over the last several weeks only to discover that we have mutual interests, goals, and respect for each other’s work.

At the same time, we are both ardent defenders of our companies, trademarks, and our pride. After all, you have to be a spirited person (some would say crazy) to be an entrepreneur in the first place - even crazier to start companies like Monster Cable and Snow Monsters.

Noel and I are in agreement that there is no conflict or ill-will between Snow Monsters and Monster Cable Products - none whatsoever.

Any statements or feelings that I have expressed in the past, whether on our websites, printed correspondence, or email are resolved in a fair and honorable manner by both parties. Everyone in my family feels this way and wants you to know that:

Snow Monsters is not responsible, nor do we condone, any information published by other persons that is untrue or misleading. I learned that we may have posted links to online information that is not accurate.

I don’t have any knowledge, nor have I ever claimed that Monster Cable has filed lawsuits against hundreds of companies or filed frivolous lawsuits. Rumors about suing the Chicago Bears, the Red Sox, or Fenway Park are simply false.

The database people have referred to is a list of trademark oppositions and requests for extensions. Trademark objection is a normal process for trademark owners. It is the Patent and Trademark office that decides if the trademark is allowed. Snow Monsters and Monster Cable will be protecting and policing our marks, or we will be in danger of losing them.

And Monster Cable never sued us. We filed a complaint in Federal Court against Monster Cable and have since withdrawn it. Please research information and check facts before jumping to any conclusions about Monster Cable. Our primary concern is to spread the truth - not cloud it.

Thanks very much to all fans of Snow Monsters. This letter will be sent to as many of our friends as possible in hopes of clearing up the situation. I ask that you do the same. And please…Think Snow!”


Jack Turner, President

EDIT in case you want the link

http://www.skipressworld.com/us/en/dail ... at=Finance

[flugel45]

I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Monster Cable for their ridiculous lawsuits done ostensibly to "protect" their name.

As far as I'm concerned, they can have the name and it's now their reputation too.


JD

actually I think you'll find those lawsuits were not exactly as they were reported...we went through this before and Monster cable according to those who sued them in order to pre-empt a lawsuit really didn't file that many suits, they filed requests for more time to investigate. One of the few actual lawsuits they actually filed was against Disney for Monster inc. In that case it was cut and dry, Disney should of gotten permission first but they settled out of court having admitted their err.

The whole thing that made it public was a guy making snowboarding videos, and it was monster something. He used it to gain attention to his snowboarding video and not very well...pre-emptive lawsuits never work..... :

Well, a quick Google search came up with this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... e=business

There are a number of cases mentioned. Are they all bull****, or part of the conspiracy against Monster Cable? Frankly, I don't buy your characterization of Monster Cable being the victims here. Clearly, they've used strongarm tactics, and very questionable judgement in some of their attempts to "protect" their name. You say "they really didn't file that many suits". Well, from what I've read, the small companies they went after often had no choice but to cave or settle since they couldn't afford to fight 'em in court. But there are enough who are standing up to them to make me take notice and say, hey, something isn't right here...

Have you got a link to something that suggests all of these articles were wrong? (You say this was all discussed here at KVR. Well, I saw the news of the lawsuits, then the disgusted reactions afterward, but totally missed the part where it was all a mistake, so I'd appreciate that link as well).

JD

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I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Monster Cable for their ridiculous lawsuits done ostensibly to "protect" their name.

As far as I'm concerned, they can have the name and it's now their reputation too.


JD

actually I think you'll find those lawsuits were not exactly as they were reported...we went through this before and Monster cable according to those who sued them in order to pre-empt a lawsuit really didn't file that many suits, they filed requests for more time to investigate. One of the few actual lawsuits they actually filed was against Disney for Monster inc. In that case it was cut and dry, Disney should of gotten permission first but they settled out of court having admitted their err.

The whole thing that made it public was a guy making snowboarding videos, and it was monster something. He used it to gain attention to his snowboarding video and not very well...pre-emptive lawsuits never work..... :

Well, a quick Google search came up with this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... e=business

There are a number of cases mentioned. Are they all bull****, or part of the conspiracy against Monster Cable? Frankly, I don't buy your characterization of Monster Cable being the victims here. Clearly, they've used strongarm tactics, and very questionable judgement in some of their attempts to "protect" their name. You say "they really didn't file that many suits". Well, from what I've read, the small companies they went after often had no choice but to cave or settle since they couldn't afford to fight 'em in court. But there are enough who are standing up to them to make me take notice and say, hey, something isn't right here...

Have you got a link to something that suggests all of these articles were wrong? (You say this was all discussed here at KVR. Well, I saw the news of the lawsuits, then the disgusted reactions afterward, but totally missed the part where it was all a mistake, so I'd appreciate that link as well).

JD

I have nothing more to prove...neither does monster cable...you have a site that was the first on google...I saw it too... You did no real research and are shooting from the hip...it's cool...however they make allegations that are clearly refuted by one of those claiming to be in litigation. Your link is subjective and looking from the outside...this is from the inside. Monster cable doesn't have to prove they didn't sue...nor do I care to...if you can't show me legal notices of lawsuits (not extensions) then it's hear say...if you want to use that a reason not to use Monster cable I myself wont settle for less (of course I bought all mine at employees discount so I got it cheaper then retail normal cables)...it doesn't hurt me any...but like the man says in my quote, don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

BTW if you boycotted every company that did the same thing as monster you would have nothing, it's absolutely normal business...

EDIT I apologize....yours was the third one on google...

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BTW I wonder how many people make this claim about monster and boycott them....all while using a pc with windows...

[SuitcaseOfLizards]

There are no good guys. That's the way the world is now. Sucks, but there it is, it's all about the money.

I don't buy Monster Cable because I can't hear any difference in my rig with them vs. somewhat less expensive "non name brand" cable. Why spend what you don't need to?

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btw you're right about the thread...I'm pretty sure it just faded away kinda unsettled, perhaps i should of said it proved it too me because that's when I discovered the facts...not that letter however I quoted, I discovered that today...

[Hink]

There are no good guys. That's the way the world is now. Sucks, but there it is, it's all about the money.

I don't buy Monster Cable because I can't hear any difference in my rig with them vs. somewhat less expensive "non name brand" cable. Why spend what you don't need to?

break a cable once and you break even and there is a difference...but I will admit when it comes to using them I am slightly biased cause I got so many, so cheap...tell me, if you could buy any normal cable for around 8 bux and the monster for 12 (ten footer cost me around 12, 25 footer was 15, the different patch cables were under 10) which would you buy? And the warranty rocks, go into any store...just like craftsman tools...no questions asked they hand you a new cable...

[flugel45]

I have nothing more to prove...neither does monster cable...you have a site that was the first on google...I saw it too... You did no real research and are shooting from the hip...it's cool...

BTW if you boycotted every company that did the same thing as monster you would have nothing, it's absolutely normal business...

Nice deflecting, but I posted the first link to make a point. If the very first link is damning to Monster Cable, what does that say about the 100th? (Clue: it's just as bad). And why should I be the one to do any research? There are numerous articles on the web that make the allegations. You claim they're mostly bunk, so the burden of proof (as they say) falls on you. If you can't deliver (or simply don't want to), then just say so. Enough deflecting.

By the way, MS is probably guilty of a lot of underhanded things, but unlike Monster Cable, they don't go after small businesses that haven't done anything illegal (or if they do, it isn't widely reported in the press). So no, I won't be boycotting them anytime soon.

Link, please.


JD

[SuitcaseOfLizards]

I've never actually broken a cable! And four bucks makes a difference to me, since I have tin ears I guess (lol) I go for the cheap ones - the difference in the purchase of two cables is a six-pack of good beer (I tend to rate everything in beer-equivalents nowadays).

Of course, I don't play out, so once something is wired in short of a squirrel breaking into my place and chewing a cable up they never see any yanking around.

ps. the squirrels around here are pretty aggressive, I'm sure I've seen 'em wearing colors and flashing gang signs!