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Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:49 am

The Heath Company I knew was based in Benton Harbor, Michigan -- though they probably had more than one major office. I think "Benton Harbor" was painted on the assembled Heath airplane I saw in our local aviation museum (which also has one of the few remaining SR-71 Blackbird spy planes).

Ah -- Googled a bit and found the name of the plane: it was the Parasol. Available built (fly it away yourself from Chicago) or as a kit. And sure enough, the Heath Aircraft Company eventually morphed into Heath Electronics.

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:06 am

Hink wrote:get a squire fat strat...

Hmmm... Are you sarcastically saying that because I mentioned getting the "cheapest thing I could find", or because you really think it would be a good starter guitar?

take care,
McLilith

dreibel · Post by **dreibel** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:37 am

A_Gruesome_Discovery wrote:
dreibel wrote: - BC Rich. Not only were a lot of their guitars unreliable electronically, they also had a sleazy vibe to their ads exploiting women. And Bernie Rico gave one of the most sickening interviews in Guitar Player I had ever read, in whicj he justified his behaviour and the company's image by talking about women in utter disrespect.
I do have to say that the American made ones, especially custom shop jobs, are of extremely high quality; hell, I'd compare them to PRS. The ones you'd find at guitar center are utter crap, though. As for the sleaziness: yes, but in an 80's L.A. metal sort of way, which doesn't make it any less demeaning, but at least makes it "kitsch".

there's no doubt the original Riches from the late seventies/early eighties certainly were solid in construction, but the active electronics were quite bad, constantly breaking down. I knew guys who had the Eagle basses who eventually said enough was enough and had them rewired in passive mode. Same with another guy who owned a Mockingbird.

dreibel · Post by **dreibel** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:49 am

McLilith wrote:Speaking of electric guitar brands, what would be a good guitar choice for someone wanting to learn guitar? I would especially like suggestions for something with humbucker pickups, to reduce noise.

thanks,
McLilith

Peavey's current version of their Predator Plus is very good, in fact I tried one out this afternoon and was pleasantly surprised how well it played and sounded. But earlier I played an earlier Predator (the Strat-style with three single-coils, made in US version) and was really, really knocked out by it. This one was going for $125 CDN used - these pop up on eBay from time to time.

Some of the Squiers are very good, some are not much than firewood. The Fat Strat Affinity isn't bad, but the one to try out is the Squier '51, which looks like a guitar version of a '51 Precision. Solid, coil-tappable humbucker in bridge, single-coil in neck. And goes for around $200.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:00 am

McLilith wrote:
Hink wrote:get a squire fat strat...
Hmmm... Are you sarcastically saying that because I mentioned getting the "cheapest thing I could find", or because you really think it would be a good starter guitar?

take care,
McLilith

I have sold many with confidence...as opposed to their counter part epiphone you get more value imo...the fat equals humbucker....but stay away from any locking nut whammy to start...

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:05 am

dreibel wrote:
A_Gruesome_Discovery wrote:
dreibel wrote: - BC Rich. Not only were a lot of their guitars unreliable electronically, they also had a sleazy vibe to their ads exploiting women. And Bernie Rico gave one of the most sickening interviews in Guitar Player I had ever read, in whicj he justified his behaviour and the company's image by talking about women in utter disrespect.
I do have to say that the American made ones, especially custom shop jobs, are of extremely high quality; hell, I'd compare them to PRS. The ones you'd find at guitar center are utter crap, though. As for the sleaziness: yes, but in an 80's L.A. metal sort of way, which doesn't make it any less demeaning, but at least makes it "kitsch".
there's no doubt the original Riches from the late seventies/early eighties certainly were solid in construction, but the active electronics were quite bad, constantly breaking down. I knew guys who had the Eagle basses who eventually said enough was enough and had them rewired in passive mode. Same with another guy who owned a Mockingbird.

you could get the mockingbird without the active electronics, though I am totally active now with my strats...I think the worse problem was the circuits were noisey as hell and the added other stuff that went overboard...the rich bich doublenect (10/6 string) had 21 swith's and knobs.

Of course today we have EMG who imo perfected active electronics...not too mention making them low z which is less signal loss and you don't need a DI...

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:06 am

Hamer is still making fairly good guitars cheap as well...

Innominandum · Post by **Innominandum** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:07 am

McLilith wrote:That's interesting! BenQ is actually the new name for Acer!

That's hilarious!!!

Innominandum · Post by **Innominandum** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:13 am

kovacs wrote:I disagree with whoever mentioned Behringer...I got their FCB 1010 floorboard and a Eurorack mixer and they work flawlessly! Their stuff is cheap and sturdy.

What I had said, is that I was actually impressed with those Behringer units for the price. I was expecting to hate them and not work.

Innominandum · Post by **Innominandum** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:21 am

pheeleep wrote:Monster cables are the best cables you can buy ( that are already assembled ).

AVCable make great cables and they actually have decent prices.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:23 am

Innominandum wrote:
kovacs wrote:I disagree with whoever mentioned Behringer...I got their FCB 1010 floorboard and a Eurorack mixer and they work flawlessly! Their stuff is cheap and sturdy.
What I had said, is that I was actually impressed with those Behringer units for the price. I was expecting to hate them and not work.

I dont know, I found my little behringer mixer to be too noisey for anything but monitoring...I gave it to my son....

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:24 am

Meffy wrote:===(@.@)===

(That's me with huge bulging eyes and whiskers sticking out about a foot on either side in astonishment.)

I give up, it's got impossible to play "stranger than truth." So-called real world keeps trumping my most absurd ideas. *SIGH*

I know the feeling... As Robert Wyatt said, Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard!

bambooman · Post by **bambooman** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:18 am

a brand i`d never buy: (for host sequencer)
S.T.E.I.N.B.E.R.G. *yikes*

(at least if it comes to vst-hosts,
i don`t talk about their other products)

overloaded with protection shitt,
overloaded with general useless crap,
so, it uses too much system resources.

but even without those 2 facts,
it`s also too expensive,
not worth the money,

it`s only a hype for a brand name,
who can`t cope with its own product promises.

all other alternative brands,
(wether it`s freeware or commercial stuff)
offer way much better products for sure!

#--period--#

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:33 am

Nutrasweet
Splenda
Sweetn'Low
Olestra
Olean
Various Diet Sodas

I just don't trust artificial food.

take care,
McLilith

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:38 am

McLilith wrote:Nutrasweet
Splenda
Sweetn'Low
Olestra
Olean
Various Diet Sodas

I just don't trust artificial food.

take care,
McLilith

I got a 20+ year old bottle of tylenol extra strentgh if your want it...

brand names I'll never buy