Bunnyboy wrote:or maybe
I see no transubstantiation of your claim whatsoever.
Best sequencer(Cubase sx, Sonar,Logic,Pro Tools...)
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35496 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
braj quoth
Sonar from my limited experience was overly complicated to do some simple stuff. I guess any sequencer that forces you to have both an audio and midi track for softsynths will never be to my taste. It sure is powerful though.
What do you do about a multitimbral synth where you want separate MIDI channels sent to it then? Or even a drum synth/sampler where you might want each drum to have its own patterns separated out?
Sonar from my limited experience was overly complicated to do some simple stuff. I guess any sequencer that forces you to have both an audio and midi track for softsynths will never be to my taste. It sure is powerful though.
What do you do about a multitimbral synth where you want separate MIDI channels sent to it then? Or even a drum synth/sampler where you might want each drum to have its own patterns separated out?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 2028 posts since 18 Mar, 2004 from New York, N.Y.
The rack filters in Tracktion make both of those scenarios pretty straightforward.whyterabbyt wrote: What do you do about a multitimbral synth where you want separate MIDI channels sent to it then? Or even a drum synth/sampler where you might want each drum to have its own patterns separated out?
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- KVRian
- 759 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from fi
... or aux channels like logic has.
never stop loving music.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35496 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
jplanet quoth
The rack filters in Tracktion make both of those scenarios pretty straightforward.
And if you then decide you want to record some of those outputs to audio? Do you then have to create one audio track per output, or is it done automatically?
The rack filters in Tracktion make both of those scenarios pretty straightforward.
And if you then decide you want to record some of those outputs to audio? Do you then have to create one audio track per output, or is it done automatically?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 2086 posts since 11 Feb, 2003
Yeah, I didn't like that part at first...but then you have freeze function with it. Still a pain if you change the synth...but the freeze makes up for it.whyterabbyt wrote:braj quoth I guess any sequencer that forces you to have both an audio and midi track for softsynths will never be to my taste.
Is there a host with freeze and just the softsynth track?
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- KVRAF
- 2086 posts since 11 Feb, 2003
...and another good thing is that way yer multi outs are set up right off the bat.mr.me wrote:Yeah, I didn't like that part at first...but then you have freeze function with it. Still a pain if you change the synth...but the freeze makes up for it.whyterabbyt wrote:braj quoth I guess any sequencer that forces you to have both an audio and midi track for softsynths will never be to my taste.
Is there a host with freeze and just the softsynth track?
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Has anyone made the tired (but completely accurate) observation that there is no 'best' sequencer, just different tools for different needs and work habits?
If not, consider it made.
If so, I will just add that I personally do my midi programming using an app that isn't even a host. Midisoft makes the most intuitive (for me, that is) notation based sequencer, so I use it to write the .mid files that eventually get imported into my host/sequencer (Tracktion).
This might seem clumsy, but if you compare it to a room full (or not full) of musicians, it is lightning fast.
If not, consider it made.
If so, I will just add that I personally do my midi programming using an app that isn't even a host. Midisoft makes the most intuitive (for me, that is) notation based sequencer, so I use it to write the .mid files that eventually get imported into my host/sequencer (Tracktion).
This might seem clumsy, but if you compare it to a room full (or not full) of musicians, it is lightning fast.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35496 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
herodotus quoth Has anyone made the tired (but completely accurate) observation that there is no 'best' sequencer, just different tools for different needs and work habits?
Im not sure. Is this the same 'which is better thread' or a new one. I've lost track, but I might have done if its an old one... If its a new one, then I dunno.
Im not sure. Is this the same 'which is better thread' or a new one. I've lost track, but I might have done if its an old one... If its a new one, then I dunno.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 7232 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
This is an example of how what works for one doesn't always work for another. I personally prefer a one window design, but not everyone does.TeeLangSun wrote:I so wish I could understand why everyone keeps saying that P5 has such a great workflow. I actually bought P5 version 2, just to see what the hype was surrounding Dimension so I have the program, but I've never been able to warm up to the "1 window with everything in it" design concept. I always seem to wind up doing more scrolling and more resizing of windows than I would have to if for example, the piano roll had it's own, large window. What am I missing? Is there a way around all the scrolling and resizing?
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- KVRian
- 1283 posts since 13 Nov, 2004
tracktionmr.me wrote:Yeah, I didn't like that part at first...but then you have freeze function with it. Still a pain if you change the synth...but the freeze makes up for it.whyterabbyt wrote:braj quoth I guess any sequencer that forces you to have both an audio and midi track for softsynths will never be to my taste.
Is there a host with freeze and just the softsynth track?
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- KVRian
- 1283 posts since 13 Nov, 2004
I thought I'd put up a really good post earier 
I'll try again.......
price....you can pay 2500 for nuendo, or you can pay 199 for tracktion.....unless you do video, that's a big gap. There are a ga-zillion choices in between and the most stable ones are probably some of the more cost effective ones.
what you use it for (mostly audio/mostly midi/combo) So if you are a home recording person, and want to record your band from time to time.......something like protools mpowered is ideal. It's not just that you can "intigrate" with so many other people, it's really optimized for audio recording. I love the midi stuff.......but it's a learning curve for synth guys who aren't used to it.
what kind of computer you have/what you are willing to spend in upgrades. HUGE! If you have 512 ram, an older processor, an older power supply..etc....you are not going to like ANY of those expensive "ooooo/ahhhhhh" hosts because they won't run. Tracktion has to be the choice in this case.......so easy......stable........and it doesn't need GOBS of ram or cpu power.
Ok........now I'll let some others fill in more blanks........I'm tired of typing.........
I'll try again.......
price....you can pay 2500 for nuendo, or you can pay 199 for tracktion.....unless you do video, that's a big gap. There are a ga-zillion choices in between and the most stable ones are probably some of the more cost effective ones.
what you use it for (mostly audio/mostly midi/combo) So if you are a home recording person, and want to record your band from time to time.......something like protools mpowered is ideal. It's not just that you can "intigrate" with so many other people, it's really optimized for audio recording. I love the midi stuff.......but it's a learning curve for synth guys who aren't used to it.
what kind of computer you have/what you are willing to spend in upgrades. HUGE! If you have 512 ram, an older processor, an older power supply..etc....you are not going to like ANY of those expensive "ooooo/ahhhhhh" hosts because they won't run. Tracktion has to be the choice in this case.......so easy......stable........and it doesn't need GOBS of ram or cpu power.
Ok........now I'll let some others fill in more blanks........I'm tired of typing.........
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
Exactly why I love Sonar. Multitimbral synths and samplers are so flexible to use and to control in Sonar.braj quoth
Sonar from my limited experience was overly complicated to do some simple stuff. I guess any sequencer that forces you to have both an audio and midi track for softsynths will never be to my taste. It sure is powerful though.
What do you do about a multitimbral synth where you want separate MIDI channels sent to it then? Or even a drum synth/sampler where you might want each drum to have its own patterns separated out?
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
some people are even happy (ish) with n-track ...j_T wrote:A lot of people might even be happy with Home Studio ...
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