Designing a website

[The Chase]

OK ive made a page in Microsoft Publisher (".pub" file). How do I upload it and make it so you see the page on my website (my father made the current one and it is um...you know, horribly embarrasing?).

[bluedad]

(my father made the current one and it is um...you know, horribly embarrasing?).

sure, blame it on yer dad!

kids!

[Spe3D]

Hey! Chase – there must be some way in publisher to export the page as html – uploading a .pub file is not going to work

Save the page as index.htm or index.html and upload this to whatever your home directory on the web is. If it saves the graphics as a separate folder – upload that folder too.

Check out some of the links in this page if you want to try html from scratch

http://audioshot.com/modules.php?name=C ... page&pid=6

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

[The Chase]

Hey! Chase – there must be some way in publisher to export the page as html – uploading a .pub file is not going to work

I know that, but im asking how to have file how with out adding the file on the end of the url

example:

"chaseswebsite.com" as opposed to "chaseswebsite.com/index.html"

[Spe3D]

you don’t need to put the index.html in the url you post if the first page is called index it will automatically load when the internet browser sees it – the very first page of a site should be an index page (some use welcome) and it will load

If however a page name is different from index – then you would need the name of that file in the url http://yoursite.com/whateverthefileiscalled.htm that you post in forums etc

If the first page is an index page then either of these links will work - try it on either of these links below - I done a page called index.htm

http://trimshots.com/index.htm

http://trimshots.com/


Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

[Meffy]

index.html (and maybe index.htm) will work with Apache, the best and most popular web server. I think by default Microsoft's awful IIS server uses "default.htm" as the index page name. Or some such non-standard thing. The admin can always reconfigure it, if she or he is so inclined.

One thing to look out for: on Linux and Unix systems (and servers) filenames are case sensitive. INDEX.HTML and index.html are two entirely different files. In Windows they're two names for the same file. To be safest it's a good idea to stick with all lower-case.

Also, avoid "funny" characters in your file names. A space will show up in URLs as "%20", for instance. This is a bother. I like to use _ (underscore) instead of space.

[The Chase]

thanks, mate! This is all I have, but today is html learning day, so there will be more in the future.

[The Chase]

Also, avoid "funny" characters in your file names. A space will show up in URLs as "%20", for instance. This is a bother. I like to use _ (underscore) instead of space.

haha i learned that the hard way by wasting a bunch of spe3d's webspace back when i had my account

[tetraplan]

If you insist on using Publisher to build your pages, I suspect it is wise to use this to check the code.
Great way to learn, too.

Groet, Erik

[Meffy]

Indeed. HTML Tidy rules, and so does Dave Raggett.

*checks link*

Hm, two lines of text and a couple of rules...

*looks at source*

EWWWWW! Chase, it's not your fault but that is absolutely horrible code. Microsoft Publisher is to blame -- it puts TONS of meaningless (as far as the Web is concerned) garbage into your document. You can strip out 99.9% of the code on that page and it will look exactly the same.

I strongly advise against using anything Microsoft (with the exception of Windows Notepad) to create HTML. Publisher is one of the worst tools I can think of for this kind of thing.

Again, I'm not slamming you! Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves, that's all.

I'd be glad to teach you to create clean, good code if you have the time. It's not hard, and the results will look good in any browser.

[tetraplan]

Indeed. HTML Tidy rules, and so does Dave Raggett.

Absolutely. Too bad the version included in UltraEdit doesn't really understand xhtml (yet).

Groet, Erik

[The Chase]

If you insist on using Publisher to build your pages, I suspect it is wise to use this to check the code.
Great way to learn, too.

Groet, Erik

im just using publisher until i find microsoft frontpage. It's around here somewhere. I hope i didnt throw it away.

[tetraplan]

im just using publisher until i find microsoft frontpage. It's around here somewhere. I hope i didnt throw it away.

It won't make much of a difference, I'm afraid. Frontpage generates only slightly less junk-code than Word or Publisher.
Tidy (and some good tutorials) will help.

Maybe check the latest version of UltraEdit. It's text-based but it has all kinds of usefull buttons that generate the appropriate tags[1], colors and so on. You can check the way it looks by pressing the "view in default browser" button. That way, it's semi-wysiwyg.

Groet, Erik

[1] too bad they're all upper-case.

[Meffy]

*nodnod* What tetraplan said. Microsoft is not trying to give you quality tools, they're trying to change the standards-based Internet into something proprietary that only those running MSIE can access.

FrontPage and Publisher are, sad to say, abominations. Please, for your good and your site visitors', check out UltraEdit or any of the other excellent HTML authoring tools available... or learn HTML and code it yourself -- from scratch. Takes a while but the results are worth it.

I use emacs text editor but that might be a bit too much for a beginner. :-D UltraEdit will help you to create REAL Web pages.

[tetraplan]

!!!
EMACS has a text-editor, too now?
//ducks, runs

Groet, Erik
!wq