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soulkraka wrote:TBH, I cant stand most hip hop but there is that 5% that I just LOVE.
And I think that pretty much somes up everything that this thread is about :D

Unless you slavishly follow some genre to death, then you are only gonna like about 5% of its output (if that actually makes sense).
Phil

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Bunnyboy wrote: Unless you slavishly follow some genre to death, then you are only gonna like about 5% of its output (if that actually makes sense).
ya pretty much...but I just let my friends follow hip hop religiously and then just show me the dope stuff like Clouddead or whatever.
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soulkraka wrote:
Bunnyboy wrote: Unless you slavishly follow some genre to death, then you are only gonna like about 5% of its output (if that actually makes sense).
ya pretty much...but I just let my friends follow hip hop religiously and then just show me the dope stuff like Clouddead or whatever.

good way of doing it!! i have even found some - GASP!! - good EBM that way :o
Phil

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lol...ya its usually pretty much pointless to outright dismiss any genre...even one as wack as EBM :) There are always some gems to be found.

I was listening to some old sons of the pioneers stuff recently and while i usually dont like country i really liked some of that..."blue shadows"= cool vocal harmonies.
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Bunnyboy wrote:
soulkraka wrote:
Bunnyboy wrote: Unless you slavishly follow some genre to death, then you are only gonna like about 5% of its output (if that actually makes sense).
ya pretty much...but I just let my friends follow hip hop religiously and then just show me the dope stuff like Clouddead or whatever.

good way of doing it!! i have even found some - GASP!! - good EBM that way :o
You're doing better than me then - I still don't really know what EBM is :-o

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I love hip-hop but since I've been listening to it for years one thing is beginning to get to me. Production-wise things seem to keep evolving, people like Madlib introducing lots of new ideas and musical explorations. The problem I have is in the lyrics... even in the more underground lyrics, things seem to pretty much come down to one thing: "I'm a genuine MC, while you're not". Which is great and I love the battle stuff but I think it's beginning to get a bit done.

The last album that genuinely excited me was 'Funcrusher Plus' by Company Flow.. I know there's still great stuff like Madlib etc, but for me there aren't many people doing lyrically serious, abstract and interesting stuff really well, like Co Flow or Kool Keith did (Keith is still flying the flag for insanely dope abstract hip-hop), although Bigg Jus is still doing nice things, especially as NMS (the album that makes Rage Against the Machine look like grannies on a CND march..).
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mm_FX wrote:'Funcrusher Plus' by Company Flow
a classic
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aMUSEd wrote:
Bunnyboy wrote:
soulkraka wrote:
Bunnyboy wrote: Unless you slavishly follow some genre to death, then you are only gonna like about 5% of its output (if that actually makes sense).
ya pretty much...but I just let my friends follow hip hop religiously and then just show me the dope stuff like Clouddead or whatever.

good way of doing it!! i have even found some - GASP!! - good EBM that way :o
You're doing better than me then - I still don't really know what EBM is :-o
its that shite that Kriminal keeps listening to :hihi: :wink:
Phil

"The fool who persists in his folly will become wise" - William Blake
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Bunnyboy wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Bunnyboy wrote:
soulkraka wrote:
Bunnyboy wrote: Unless you slavishly follow some genre to death, then you are only gonna like about 5% of its output (if that actually makes sense).
ya pretty much...but I just let my friends follow hip hop religiously and then just show me the dope stuff like Clouddead or whatever.

good way of doing it!! i have even found some - GASP!! - good EBM that way :o
You're doing better than me then - I still don't really know what EBM is :-o
its that shite that Kriminal keeps listening to :hihi: :wink:
Oh, you mean Disco? :lol:

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Hmmm... Because my bandmates would gather together and beat my ass, if I did(It would take all of them ) :box: negative images of hip hop lifestyle..... not much of a lyrics guy... not much into people who don't play their own instruments....
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geoffrey wrote:not much into people who don't play their own instruments....
ever heard of The Roots?
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A few other hip hop outfits use live instrumentation also, for instance heiruspecs - check out 'a tiger dancing'.

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I will check out the Roots. Thanks for the tip. I have an open mind toward all music. I do like some hip hop. Osmosis from my teenage daughter...
There is geometry in the humming of the strings, there is music in the spacing of the spheres. Pythagoras

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Why?'s band play live as well
Phil

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zion15 wrote:BONES, do remember that you haven't heard all hiphop in the world - probably not even a small fraction of it considering your comments.
So you'd lump Public Enemy in with all the current krap, would you? usually in these threads they are quoted as a shining example of everythign that hip-hop should be. I think the're krap.
besides, 5 sounds is one more than a standard rock trio has, haha.
Yes, and if the bass player didn't play anything and the guitarist played the same bland riff through an entire song without any variation in tone, it would still sound better than that song but that band wouldn't get very far. Anyway, a trio has 3 voices, making for a total of 6 instruments.
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